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Re:Lessons Learned from the Book “Effective Remote Work” (2022) by luuuzeta on Monday January 02, 2023 @08:23AM (#34217558)
I'm honestly confused what's the use of flagging in Hackernews. You're being flagged, even though you're making some interesting observations that aren't derailing the thread. Is it because the flaggers disagree with your opinions?

I also don't like forced socialization but like the possibility of socialization being there, as a way to build team cohesion, disengage from work, etc.

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Re:Lessons Learned from the Book “Effective Remote Work” (2022) by jagged-chisel on Monday January 02, 2023 @08:33AM (#34217636)
One should downvote to disagree. One should flag comments that are against community guidelines (trolling, unnecessary rudeness...)

This, however, doesn't mean that everyone uses these features correctly.

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Re:Lessons Learned from the Book “Effective Remote Work” (2022) by rhn_mk1 on Monday January 02, 2023 @08:43AM (#34217725)
I would prefer if users didn't use downvotes if they merely disagree. Disagreement doesn't make something not worth reading - actually, it's the opposite.

I see a lot of honest opinions and questions downvoted, and this turns threads into echo chambers.

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Re:Lessons Learned from the Book “Effective Remote Work” (2022) by laserlight on Monday January 02, 2023 @10:46AM (#34219130)
Downvoting for disagreement is not my cup of coffee either, but I can understand why people do that. I've never understood why questions are downvoted, though. I'm not talking about “Google it you moron” types of questions. I've seen even simple questions of further inquiry get downvotes. Perhaps there are people offended by questions. I'm genuinely curious.
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Re:Lessons Learned from the Book “Effective Remote Work” (2022) by rhn_mk1 on Monday January 02, 2023 @11:18AM (#34219615)
Here's an example from today: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34216557

I can't imagine why this could possibly get downvoted.

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Re:Lessons Learned from the Book “Effective Remote Work” (2022) by irrational on Monday January 02, 2023 @12:24PM (#34220643)
How do you know it was downvoted? I don’t see a way to tell what kind of votes a comment got.
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Re:Lessons Learned from the Book “Effective Remote Work” (2022) by rhn_mk1 on Monday January 02, 2023 @12:57PM (#34221163)
At the time it was grayed out.
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Re:Lessons Learned from the Book “Effective Remote Work” (2022) by laserlight on Monday January 02, 2023 @12:58PM (#34221167)
Text of downvoted comments appear in lighter shades. The more the downvotes the lighter the text. Does the linked comment [0] appear in light gray as opposed to its replies which are darker?

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34216557

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Re:Lessons Learned from the Book “Effective Remote Work” (2022) by dinkumthinkum on Monday January 02, 2023 @07:47PM (#34225999)
Give that the score is called “karma,” it seems very odd for downvotes to occur for disagreement .
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Re:Lessons Learned from the Book “Effective Remote Work” (2022) by dkjaudyeqooe on Monday January 02, 2023 @12:01PM (#34220260)
My understanding is that downvotes should be used for comments that don't add to the discussion. Thoughtful disagreement is surely the lifeblood of a good discussion.

I feel like most downvotes are used to simply disagree though.

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Re:Lessons Learned from the Book “Effective Remote Work” (2022) by jagged-chisel on Monday January 02, 2023 @01:31PM (#34221678)
pg said this 13yrs ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=658691

Sure, communities change, but it seems whenever I try to get folks onboard with "don't downvote to disagree" I get pushback from some admin, founder, senior community member that downvoting to disagree is Just Fine.

Edit: my preference is that, as you say, downvoting should be used for comments that don't add to the discussion.

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Re:Lessons Learned from the Book “Effective Remote Work” (2022) by luuuzeta on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @01:37PM (#34235778)
>One should downvote to disagree. One should flag comments that are against community guidelines (trolling, unnecessary rudeness...)

Interesting! I didn't know there was both flagging and downvoting. I'd assume flagging works like reporting on Reddit.

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