Ask HN: Concepts that clicked only years after you first encountered them?

Re:Ask HN: Concepts that clicked only years after you first ... by Invictus0 on Sunday January 01, 2023 @07:11PM (#34212655)

Women that dedicate their careers to chess still dramatically underperform men at the professional level. There is even a different rating level and title system for women: women earning the "women grandmaster" title need 200 fewer ELO points than the grandmaster title for men. No woman has ever won the World Chess Championship, and there are far fewer female GMs than male GMs.

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Re:Ask HN: Concepts that clicked only years after you first ... by dudeinjapan on Sunday January 01, 2023 @07:20PM (#34212708)

How do women and men do versus AI opponents, i.e. without any gender? Wonder if chess.com has the data?

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Re:Ask HN: Concepts that clicked only years after you first ... by Invictus0 on Sunday January 01, 2023 @07:37PM (#34212825)

Badly? AI is vastly superior to human capability, no human wins

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Re:Ask HN: Concepts that clicked only years after you first ... by icelancer on Sunday January 01, 2023 @09:25PM (#34213519)

We all get slaughtered. It's possible Magnus could make one draw with white against a not-current Stockfish on limited depth out of a hundred games, but that would be about the best any of us could do.

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Re:Ask HN: Concepts that clicked only years after you first ... by zamadatix on Friday January 06, 2023 @07:06PM (#34283254)

Chess engines support the concept of skill level. Pretty much any chess program or app supports this out of the box, such as the aforementioned chess.com. The only times they are run unhindered are for analysis, engine testing, or fun.

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Re:Ask HN: Concepts that clicked only years after you first ... by epivosism on Sunday January 01, 2023 @08:15PM (#34213072)

There's a very interesting point in the thread below which would resolve the question - we could use chess puzzles! If there is a mismatch between performance on puzzles with live results, it would be pretty solid proof that the effect is real. It doesn't have to be full on AI.

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Re:Ask HN: Concepts that clicked only years after you first ... by icelancer on Sunday January 01, 2023 @09:25PM (#34213514)

Some women (Polgar for example) have argued the separate womens' titles significantly contribute to the gap in skill.

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Re:Ask HN: Concepts that clicked only years after you first ... by lelanthran on Monday January 02, 2023 @12:26AM (#34214673)

I've always wondered about this, actually.

With almost all sports males have a dramatic physical advantage[1] so it's not really fair to have males compete with females.

With chess there is no physical advantage, so why keep separate tournaments for males and females? What is the reasoning for preventing males and females competing in chess?

[1] In the 90s, ISTR reading about a tennis match between a #3-rank female player against a #5000-something-ranked male, and the male player simply dominated. I wish I could find that article now, but it was a print mag and I don't remember which one it was.

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