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Re:Croatia to switch to euro, enter passport-free Schengen zone by csomar on Saturday December 31, 2022 @07:34PM (#34202285)
This is complete propaganda BS. The EU has broke smaller countries. Greece for example, might never recover. Worse, because of the freedom of movement, most of the youth are moving to the west (Germany, Netherlands, etc…) and this had made greece actually lose workers and population. Greece unemployment went down not because there are more jobs, but because there are less job’s seekers.
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Re:Croatia to switch to euro, enter passport-free Schengen zone by ergocoder on Saturday December 31, 2022 @07:51PM (#34202396)
> most of the youth are moving to the west

That's a win, not a loss. Holding people hostage is not a good thing...

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Re:Croatia to switch to euro, enter passport-free Schengen zone by strich on Saturday December 31, 2022 @07:52PM (#34202405)
Your representative problem strikes me as very weird. Greeces own citizens are benefiting immensely as you say because now they can follow their preferred careers within the EU and enrich themselves and their family. Surely it's the failure of their own government to provide a high value internal export and not the EU?
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Re:Croatia to switch to euro, enter passport-free Schengen zone by zymhan on Saturday December 31, 2022 @07:52PM (#34202408)
Greece has 10 million people. It seems ridiculous to expect every profession could be maximally employed there, especially given the geography.

It's like an American expecting no one to ever leave the US state of Georgia to look for a job.

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Re:Croatia to switch to euro, enter passport-free Schengen zone by boudin on Saturday December 31, 2022 @07:54PM (#34202419)
Not saying that there was no mistake done when Greece joined the EU (actually I don't think Greece should have been allowed to join) but claiming that none of this would have happened if it were not for the EU is just bullshit. Greece was already corrupted, with really unhealthy economics.
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Re:Croatia to switch to euro, enter passport-free Schengen zone by csomar on Saturday December 31, 2022 @07:57PM (#34202443)
I’m not saying it was bad for the greek (the people) but for the Greece (the country). Also, if you think long-term, it might not be that beneficial for the greek. Moving to another country incur extra costs, which could be avoided on your own country. Greeks might have been more well-off if their own country developed instead.
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Re:Croatia to switch to euro, enter passport-free Schengen zone by jokethrowaway on Saturday December 31, 2022 @08:00PM (#34202460)
They could have very well printed their way out of the problem and let everyone in the country pay for the mistake of the usual class of corrupted politicians.

Oh but they're in the EU now, they can't do that, so let's just let the peasants starve while the wealthy invest in german stocks.

I'm not saying Greece is a perfect system, but the EU way has been just way worse for Greek citizens.

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Re:Croatia to switch to euro, enter passport-free Schengen zone by Renaud on Saturday December 31, 2022 @09:00PM (#34202812)
Blaming the EU for Greece’s issue is a real stretch…

Whether how the EU responded to the Greek crisis was all good or not is open for debate, I think we can nevertheless safely say that Greece was mostly responsible for its own debt and fiscal management problems.

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Re:Croatia to switch to euro, enter passport-free Schengen zone by dkjaudyeqooe on Sunday January 01, 2023 @03:14AM (#34204611)
> Worse, because of the freedom of movement, most of the youth are moving to the west (Germany, Netherlands, etc…) and this had made greece actually lose workers and population.

Yes people should not be able to escape their governments' corruption and mismanagement, and suffer along with the rest of them.

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