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Re:New industries come from crazy people (2021) by croes on Saturday December 31, 2022 @05:55PM (#34201596)
>the ordinary, the mundane, the average, the rock-no-boats

Most great things are accomplished by them, often by teams of them. They don't just run around and brag about their success.

For instance Polio wasn't nearly eradicated by people like Musk, it where hard working ordinary people.

BTW most of the things attributed to Musk are done by his employees, the ordinary guys who never accomplish great things /s

Re:New industries come from crazy people (2021) by mmsimanga on Saturday December 31, 2022 @06:07PM (#34201671)
I think you are conflating things here. The gentleman who came up with the polio vaccine is the "crazy" person who decided not to accept the status quo. That polio should be literally a death sentence. I am not saying the hard working people who administered the vaccine should not be acknowledged, they should be but we cannot equate administering the vaccine to inventing the vaccine.
Re:New industries come from crazy people (2021) by croes on Saturday December 31, 2022 @06:21PM (#34201767)
It wasn't one gentleman but the result of multiple people.

Solutions are seldom the result of one lonely working geniuses.

For instance the internet or FB changed the world, but I wouldn't categorize their inventors as those crazy ones mentioned in the article.

We just tend to attribute special features to the most well known people, higher endurance, greater skill, stronger will.

There are way to many inventions and companies to thinks the world is formed by a few 'crazy' ones.

The only crazy one who achieved that are the real crazy ones and they didn't change the world to the better, see Putin.

Re:New industries come from crazy people (2021) by mmsimanga on Saturday December 31, 2022 @06:34PM (#34201859)
I agree that most things aren't invented by one person. We stand on the shoulders of giants. I am okay with recognising all 20 or 100 people who contribute to an invention. Heck even the 1000 people. I am just having a hard time with notion that those administering the vaccine are the same as those who invented the vaccine. I use Linux promote Linux to those in my circles. I certainly do not view myself as an equal to Linus.
Re:New industries come from crazy people (2021) by croes on Sunday January 01, 2023 @12:43AM (#34203951)
I'm not talking about the administering of the vaccine but it's development.

Even that was a team effort and I doubt that people like Sabin count as that kind of crazy mentioned in the article.

Those are average scientists, not meant pejoratively, on the contrary, doing their job and sometimes the results have a big impact.

Re:New industries come from crazy people (2021) by ClumsyPilot on Saturday December 31, 2022 @06:44PM (#34201946)
Exactly, most things are acconplished by scaling an existing solution to billions of people.

Danitation was created by digging thousands miles of pipes, nanufacturing billuons of toilets, designing facilities to produce billions of bars of soap.

Peolle is sillicon valley run in circles chasing innovation in transport, but more than half of high speed rail in the world eas built over the past 9 years in china. 90% of eorld electric busses run in china. India has probided toilets for 600 million people. All of that required soneone to pick up a shovel, and political will to organise shoveling.

Re:New industries come from crazy people (2021) by bawolff on Sunday January 01, 2023 @05:14AM (#34205170)
Yeah, but people definitely thought variolation (for smallpox) was crazy initially.

I think the idea is crazy people make the proof-of-concept, non-crazy people perfect the idea.

With the important note that things getting moved forward by crazy people is not the same thing as saying most crazy people move things forward. Most do nothing of note.