Re:How we got grifted by a multi-billion dollar grocery dist...
by Ekaros on Friday December 30, 2022 @01:22PM
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That to me sounds like we might lose revenue, but at least we are unlikely to lose money.
Re:How we got grifted by a multi-billion dollar grocery dist...
by analog31 on Friday December 30, 2022 @01:26PM
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It becomes a problem if you borrow to pay for tooling & plant in anticipation of getting paid for product. You might lose your shirt.
Re:How we got grifted by a multi-billion dollar grocery dist...
by fbdab103 on Friday December 30, 2022 @02:47PM
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Cash flow is the be-all end-all. If you cannot make rent, you are done. Big business does not care. Working for a big business, I have encountered other small companies who do not want to deal with us - getting $MEGACORP to pay their bills on time is a foreign concept.
Re:How we got grifted by a multi-billion dollar grocery dist...
by monocasa on Friday December 30, 2022 @01:53PM
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> gave me a long lecture about why we didn't work with that industry.
Automotive? That has big automotive energy.
Re:How we got grifted by a multi-billion dollar grocery dist...
by grumple on Friday December 30, 2022 @04:24PM
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I think this is needed tbh.
My fortune 10 company regularly pays our bills after the pay period - like 60 days late on a net 30. And then I, a technical person that just wants the damn AWS bill paid so I stop getting emailed about it, have to chase down the people responsible internally, even though they get the same billing emails. Because for some reason they didn't like the old way of setting up auto pay. Oh. And they will send literal paper checks to pay some bills... to closed offices since everybody works from home now.
The accounts payable department wastes more time than they save.
Re:How we got grifted by a multi-billion dollar grocery dist...
by mrandish on Friday December 30, 2022 @05:37PM
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Yep, when I started out in business I focused a lot on price (and hence our margin). I then learned that with large distributors / customers the more important aspect can be the terms because "terms and conditions" of sale can make an order not an order, a payment be delayed months and even the price paid not how much you receive.
My first job out of school was for a mom-and-pop manufacturing company. I got an inquiry one day from a very well known company, and mentioned it to the boss. He gave me a long lecture about why we didn't work with that industry. They were notorious for stringing their suppliers along and holding them in a sort of debt bondage. I remember responding with a FAX (yeah, that's how it was done) explaining our terms: Pay in advance. The boss made sure that the business was never beholden to a single large customer.
We also had a draconian, hair-trigger, credit hold process. I remember overhearing the scheduler / receptionist telling a customer: "You are on credit hold right now, we can't schedule your next production run."