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Re:Tesla used car price bubble pops, weighs on new car demand by newZWhoDis on Thursday December 29, 2022 @12:32PM (#34175218)
Elon’s Twitter posts have zero impact on anything related to the car. The people allowing that to shape their purchasing decisions are underdeveloped emotional children.

Adults buy a vehicle based on specs, price, build quality, and style.

Re:Tesla used car price bubble pops, weighs on new car demand by LarryMullins on Thursday December 29, 2022 @12:35PM (#34175277)
> and style.

Therein lies the rub, style is not such a rational quantitative and empirical metric; it's "emotional". The brand has become less stylish because the man who owns it is becoming very unpopular.

Re:Tesla used car price bubble pops, weighs on new car demand by vgt on Thursday December 29, 2022 @12:40PM (#34175359)
Tesla's ICP are highly educated affluent liberals who believe in climate change, vaccines, women's rights, lgbt rights, and so on. They buy expensive EVs to make a statement and contribute to green economy. Musk is very quickly alienating these people.

Imagine if Trump sold cars.

And you continue your toxic language in virtually every musk related thread.

Re:Tesla used car price bubble pops, weighs on new car demand by travisporter on Thursday December 29, 2022 @12:47PM (#34175469)
I think this is true for the majority of working class people, but my feeling, just from talking to others is that when you're in the market for a Tesla you have the money to be a bit more choosy and start to care about stuff. Musk is inexorably linked to Tesla. I know two people who have backed out of a Model Y purchase last month.
Re:Tesla used car price bubble pops, weighs on new car demand by iudqnolq on Thursday December 29, 2022 @12:57PM (#34175605)
I care deeply about people in categorizes Musk cruelly mocks. I don't care what my neighbors think of my sense of style.

Even if you pursue style that's no guarantee you'll succeed. there's a reason there's a stereotype of balding middle aged men buying fancy cars to compensate for perceived inadequacy.

Re:Tesla used car price bubble pops, weighs on new car demand by l33tman on Thursday December 29, 2022 @08:07PM (#34180348)
That does not follow. I was in the market for an EV and considered a Tesla and now I just get a bad feeling when I see one. I have many friends who think the same and it's 100% to do with Musk, as I associated him with the brand as do a lot of other customers. It's of course illogical, but humans are very illogical..
Re:Tesla used car price bubble pops, weighs on new car demand by dragonwriter on Thursday December 29, 2022 @08:14PM (#34180419)
> Elon’s Twitter posts have zero impact on anything related to the car.

Elon’s personal brand has been a big part of Tesla’s appeal, it either falling overall or realigning to be most attractive to a group not otherwise inclined to prefer electric vehicles is going to have an impact on Tesla demand, whether or not it logically should, just as it (positively) impacted that demand, whether or not it should have, before.

> The people allowing that to shape their purchasing decisions are underdeveloped emotional children.

You calling people “underdeveloped emotional children” doesn’t reduce the actual number of them or the effect their preferences have on the market for the car.

> Adults buy a vehicle based on specs, price, build quality, and style.

Cars remain on the road typically for over a decade now, and Tesla takes unusual steps to force use of their own services for maintenance; purely tangential image issues (which nevertheless are real market forces) aside, this creates a rational reason for Tesla demand to be more than usually sensitive to ability to trust the company and its leadership into the future.