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Re:1491: It’s likely that everything you know about American... by jcranmer on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @07:38PM (#34168012)
> But yeah, it's against the evidence to think native american societies could have posed any meaningful defense or offense against old world countries.

But they did pose a meaningful defense. The Mayans weren't fully conquered until the early 1800s, the Mapuche the late 1800s--effectively, it took Spain (and later Chile/Argentina) over 300 years to conquer the Native Americans. Quite frankly, the main reason they succeeded was not that the indigenous peoples were inferior, but that the Europeans could afford to wage a low-grade war for centuries, and stomach the surprisingly frequent setbacks, whereas the indigenous peoples couldn't.

Re:1491: It’s likely that everything you know about American... by leereeves on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @08:13PM (#34168282)
> The Mayans weren't fully conquered until the early 1800s

I don't know anything about Mayan history, but Wikipedia says the Spanish conquered the Maya by 1697.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_civilization#Contact_peri...

Re:1491: It’s likely that everything you know about American... by sbaiddn on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @11:20PM (#34169514)
Ya, but the Mapuche (as fierce warriors as they were) were unconquered largely because no one cared about Patagonia enough to live there. Kinda hard to conquer an area larger than France with a few thousand men.