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Re:Ask HN: Risk of unsafe software in automobiles? by smt88 on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @12:43PM (#34163547)
Don't buy a Tesla and you'll be fine. I work in auto insurance and the other OEMs actually care about safety and testing of software. Tesla has the most bugs by far.
Re:Ask HN: Risk of unsafe software in automobiles? by manscrober on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @01:05PM (#34163790)
I don't know about tesla since I haven't had a chance to drive one yet, but the number of bugs especially in the interface but also in driver's "assistance" in other cars(VW, BMW) makes me doubt that it makes a noticeable difference - at least with tesla there is a chance they will fix it
Re:Ask HN: Risk of unsafe software in automobiles? by kube-system on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @01:14PM (#34163887)
Many of the electronic systems in traditional automaker's vehicles are made by a variety of other OEMs anyway. So judging by automaker brand may not really be a good judge of the engineering development of those subsystems. The infotainment might be made by Panasonic and the driver assistance might be made by Bosch.
Re:Ask HN: Risk of unsafe software in automobiles? by piceas on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @01:58PM (#34164408)
They are interconnected though. Reputation for faults add up. To me the following is vw's fault.

I've recently had an id4's location fail, and the map was all over the place. It got worse as I drove on.

Annoying, but I thought not a safety issue until the speed limiter caused the car to attempt to slow down by more than 100kph as it was reporting it was somewhere else.

Re:Ask HN: Risk of unsafe software in automobiles? by someweirdperson on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @04:46PM (#34166425)
The industry is really good at inventing the wheel multiple times. Even in a simple case: Two car manufacturers, same supplier for the same kind of control unit - the hardware will likely look similar, but most likely both are running almost completely different software.
Re:Ask HN: Risk of unsafe software in automobiles? by kube-system on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @04:55PM (#34166532)
> the hardware will likely look similar, but most likely both are running almost completely different software.

And automotive parts OEMs could run down to Best Buy, point at a Surface Book and a Macbook, and say the same thing.

Re:Ask HN: Risk of unsafe software in automobiles? by smt88 on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @03:41PM (#34165674)
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Re:Ask HN: Risk of unsafe software in automobiles? by smt88 on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @09:15PM (#34168661)
It's easy to cherry-pick these things and succumb to confirmation bias. I was talking about company culture, not results.

But as long as we're talking about results, "FSD" is an intentional homicide engine and Tesla has had far more recalls per vehicle sold than any other company. They're at the bottom of quality rankings by a wide margin.