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Re:What a $1M Retirement Looks Like in America by toomuchtodo on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @09:19PM (#34156777)
I believe we’ve equally proven that defined contribution plans are fairly worthless compared to pensions, when 50% of retirees have no retirement savings and the median balance of these accounts is in the low five figures, no? Workers are simply not lucky enough (to have the financial means), nor financially savvy enough, to manage this themselves across a lifetime.

From my last link:

> The median value of 401(k)-style accounts was $30,000 and the median IRA or Keogh value was $30,820 — not statistically different.

> The median total amount employees contributed in 2020 to their own IRA or Keogh account was $2,514. The median amount they contributed to their 401(k)-style accounts ($3,599) and pension plans ($3,257) was slightly higher. Future research will examine employer contributions in combination with employee contributions.

Come on, based on available data this isn’t a functioning asset accumulation system for worker retirement, it’s theater to keep the hoax going. Outliers are going to trot out their six and seven figure account balances, but they are just that: outliers.

Re:What a $1M Retirement Looks Like in America by maxerickson on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @09:40PM (#34156915)
It's not like every job came with a pension before 401ks (apparently it peaked at about 50%). And partially vested pensions have their own issues (deferring compensation and then not receiving it).

I'm not actually arguing that 401ks are a solution to retirement though. I'm arguing that they weren't initially designed as a tax shelter for the wealthy.

I'm not sure what an improved system looks like. Probably something like a pension where the employer is not allowed to be the entity responsible for paying out the benefit (so that present day promises can't be funded with future contributions).

Re:What a $1M Retirement Looks Like in America by maribi on Thursday December 29, 2022 @06:25AM (#34171581)
I have an Israeli federal pension, but there was a problem with getting it, helped me here https://zashita.co.il/ , had to take care of all the bureaucratic problems, and then recalculate the pension, so now I get almost the same salary as before, but now on the due rest