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Re:Safari's date-picker is the cause of 1/3 of our customer ... by xcombelle on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @12:37AM (#34145477)
>Also Safari has monopoly status for everyone using an iPhone. The people on iPhone simply can't pick another browser, because Apple won't let them.

i have an iphone with safari, firefox, firefox focus and chrome, ...

Re:Safari's date-picker is the cause of 1/3 of our customer ... by bioemerl on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @12:38AM (#34145482)
Yes, but Firefox focus is Safari. Chrome is safari.

iPhones aren't allowed to have web browsers that aren't running Safari on the back end. They can have different names, different UIs, but at the end of the day it's the same browser.

Re:Safari's date-picker is the cause of 1/3 of our customer ... by adgjlsfhk1 on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @12:40AM (#34145495)
no you don't. you have safari with a re-skin to make it look like a different browser
Re:Safari's date-picker is the cause of 1/3 of our customer ... by atomicnumber3 on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @12:39AM (#34145484)
And all of those are using the Safari rendering/layout engine.
Re:Safari's date-picker is the cause of 1/3 of our customer ... by tomxor on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @12:43AM (#34145516)
And JS engine, the whole thing is basically safari with a different URL bar and ancillary stuff like bookmark syncing. As far as the code is concerned it's 100% Safari.

I don't know why non iOS browser play the stupid pseudo support game with Apple, it just makes it confusing for users like the parent comment... playing into Apple's hand, helping them pretend that it's actually a fair ecosystem with choices.

Re:Safari's date-picker is the cause of 1/3 of our customer ... by kitsunesoba on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @12:51AM (#34145572)
> I don't know why non iOS browser play the stupid pseudo support game with Apple, it just makes it confusing for users like the parent comment...

That's easy. Users want their bookmarks, history, passwords, etc synced across devices, and so if there's no Chrome, Firefox, Edge etc for iOS to accomplish that on iPhone/iPad, people who have multiple Apple devices would likely switch to Safari and those users would be lost. Additionally, in the case of Google and Microsoft, they'd be opting out of those sweet, sweet streams of user data if they had no iOS presence. And so, those browsers exist, just built around WebKit instead of Blink/Gecko.

Re:Safari's date-picker is the cause of 1/3 of our customer ... by echelon on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @12:56AM (#34145610)
Apple does not allow any rendering engines or runtimes apart from their own. Firefox on iOS is just Safari under the hood, and all Mozilla contributes is the user interface.

Apple does this for a few reasons:

1) to prevent web apps from gaining a foothold. Modern web standards aim to provide native-like utility, performance, look, and feel. Apple purposefully holds their device back so companies are compelled to deploy native apps.

2) to prevent Google from taking over their platform. Chrome could give Safari a run for its money and "steal" user attention away from Apple's key platform pieces, providing a foothold for Google on iOS.