Re:How Twitter Rigged the Covid Debate
by rqtwteye on Monday December 26, 2022 @11:04PM
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The for profit health system has a ton of problems and should be abandoned but it’s not the reason why people lost their minds over Covid. Germany has a better health system (for normal earners. The US system is great for wealthy people) but still has a ton of anti vaxxers and Covid deniers.
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Re:How Twitter Rigged the Covid Debate
by a_bonobo on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @12:00AM
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I feel Germany is a slightly different beast as a large part of the anti-vax crowd in Germany seems to recruit itself from left-ish/Green corner of politics, the people who've been anti-Monsanto for decades. It's not a far jump from there to anti-vax (it's all big US companies etc.)
How's that different from the US? Nominally left-leaning yoga moms are a huge part of the antivax moxement. It's the same thing - a lack of understanding, an unwillingness to think critical, a naive belief that "nature good, human-made bad" without any nuance, and the willingness to deify their prophets of "natural healing".
Re:How Twitter Rigged the Covid Debate
by jacquesm on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @03:39AM
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Nominally left-leaning yoga moms should stick to yoga. The same goes for nominally right-leaning yoga moms. And yoga dads. Unless they feel like ditching every other 'human made' component from their lives as well for consistency.
Essential oils for broken legs.
Re:How Twitter Rigged the Covid Debate
by bluenomatterwho on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @10:39AM
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Many people point out that hospitals tend to have tough luck with anything except broken bones.
Preventative medicine, nutrition, etc have an impressive record for everything else. Essential oils may be a rather small part of this.
Re:How Twitter Rigged the Covid Debate
by jacquesm on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @01:06PM
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> Many people point out that hospitals tend to have tough luck with anything except broken bones.
Many people talk dumb nonsense. Doesn't mean you should pay attention. Next time you have kidney trouble, appendicitis, an infected gal bladder, a blood clot in your aorta, a leaky heart valve or an infected tooth you'll be talking to a yoga mom then?
Re:How Twitter Rigged the Covid Debate
by bluenomatterwho on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @10:08PM
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Indeed, many people induce unnecessary stress upon themselves spewing vitriol. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/medical-errors-third-leading... I spoke in general on purpose, to avoid getting into the weeds on statistics like this. Of course we are aware of modern medical techniques. But the general divide between holistic and allopathic medicine is well known. Perhaps a deep breath is in order.
Re:How Twitter Rigged the Covid Debate
by fithisux on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @12:29AM
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Correct reasoning
In Spain there is universal healthcare which is not perfect but works relative ok (although has been eroded over time) and most antivaxxers(and anti mask and anti everything) could be found within the right spectrum, basically as no sayers to everything the current government (social democrats) would recommend and propose.
In Germany, anyone who didn’t agree with forcing people to get vaccinated and with lockdowns was considered a Covid denier. But in the end, once mask mandates were lifted and basically no one wears a mask any more, you see that a loud and aggressive minority was the one imposing the rules on everyone.