Re:Toyota CEO Says “Silent Majority” of Auto Industry Is Dou...
by kkfx on Monday December 26, 2022 @11:53AM
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I have mixed feelings: on one side I think that going electric is an evolutionary need at scale, we can't munge more from classic ICEs so it's time to build something better on one side, on the other we have many infra to distribute electricity, water, oil, gas, data, ... IF we can cut some of them, like we have done with the convergence to IP means a bigger step toward simplification and money saving. On the other side, also as an EV owner, I think we are not there. We just start to being able to produce usable EV for a sufficiently board set of possible use case.
Let's observe the society at a whole:
- we do need roads, or something equivalent because while we can fly also over land we can't easily fly anything, a cheap drone can fly a mail over a short distance, but fly some industrial machines, component needed to build a home etc are too large too heavy to be moved by air at acceptable costs or even at all in some cases;
- we do need water, at home/factory so we need pipes;
- we need data networks;
- we need electricity networks etc.
Can we erase oil pipelines? Gas pipelines? Their pumping station, the extractions fields, transport and processing stuff etc? Well not completely so far, for instance we need oil for plastic witch include electrical insulation materials, lubricants, joints, absorbing materials for pads/tampons, shoes, tissues, .... but we can drop MANY of them at the price of a bigger electricity network. This means far less stuff to build and maintain. Positive. Electricity is hard but we need it anyway and we can produce it at a significant scale from various sources. Electric motors are effective, well-known, powerful and have many margin of improvement.
That means a good advance.
BUT if we can't spread them on scale, produce enough batteries, energy, recycle enough raw materials than it's a disastrous move. It's something should be started BY THE PUBLIC with attentive and calm peace, instead of trying offloading costs on the people for private profits. And that's my concern.
Let's observe the society at a whole:
- we do need roads, or something equivalent because while we can fly also over land we can't easily fly anything, a cheap drone can fly a mail over a short distance, but fly some industrial machines, component needed to build a home etc are too large too heavy to be moved by air at acceptable costs or even at all in some cases;
- we do need water, at home/factory so we need pipes;
- we need data networks;
- we need electricity networks etc.
Can we erase oil pipelines? Gas pipelines? Their pumping station, the extractions fields, transport and processing stuff etc? Well not completely so far, for instance we need oil for plastic witch include electrical insulation materials, lubricants, joints, absorbing materials for pads/tampons, shoes, tissues, .... but we can drop MANY of them at the price of a bigger electricity network. This means far less stuff to build and maintain. Positive. Electricity is hard but we need it anyway and we can produce it at a significant scale from various sources. Electric motors are effective, well-known, powerful and have many margin of improvement.
That means a good advance.
BUT if we can't spread them on scale, produce enough batteries, energy, recycle enough raw materials than it's a disastrous move. It's something should be started BY THE PUBLIC with attentive and calm peace, instead of trying offloading costs on the people for private profits. And that's my concern.