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Re:Tech’s defiance of economic gravity came to an abrupt end by dimator on Monday December 26, 2022 @11:29AM (#34139082)
Why are they in a panic over ChatGpt? Don't they have similar research and tech around these AI systems?
Re:Tech’s defiance of economic gravity came to an abrupt end by birdymcbird on Monday December 26, 2022 @11:37AM (#34139184)
80% of their revenue comes from ads, which is google search. Chatgpt and any other startup who invests in something like chatgpt can upend googles core business model.

and no, google doesn’t have anything significant in this space. “Innovation” behind search was to slowly increase no. if paid ads in your results, driven by need to increase revenue and keep the rest of the 80% of biz afloat.

Re:Tech’s defiance of economic gravity came to an abrupt end by screye on Monday December 26, 2022 @01:44PM (#34140480)
> and no, google doesn’t have anything significant in this space

LAMBDA and PaLM are literally the answer to Chat-GPT. Google is their closest competitor.

I do agree that they will lose their moat, and soon Google search will just be another tool among many.

Re:Tech’s defiance of economic gravity came to an abrupt end by lossolo on Monday December 26, 2022 @02:31PM (#34140939)
And Google developed LaMDA model (superior to chatGPT) a lot of time before OpenAI, additionally without their research into transformers and publishing results, OpenAI would probably not even have ChatGPT now/yet.
Re:Tech’s defiance of economic gravity came to an abrupt end by shubb on Monday December 26, 2022 @03:10PM (#34141306)
Something I find very curious - Google are doing the same kind of research and are in many ways futher along. They have thier own models like T5 that supposedly perform better. Are their exec unaware of their own strengths?

For that matter, wasn't Google collecting masses of GIS data and doing intense self driving car research? Where is that product?

Serious q - do google have so much money that they are doing tons of research and then just forgetting to make a product out of it?

Re:Tech’s defiance of economic gravity came to an abrupt end by csande17 on Monday December 26, 2022 @04:20PM (#34142009)
> For that matter, wasn't Google collecting masses of GIS data and doing intense self driving car research? Where is that product?

https://waymo.com/

Re:Tech’s defiance of economic gravity came to an abrupt end by voakbasda on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @11:47AM (#34150381)
Research does not need to lead to a product to be profitable. Another strategy is to patent all of your work, then steal the profits from anyone that attempts to enter that market.
Re:Tech’s defiance of economic gravity came to an abrupt end by KirillPanov on Monday December 26, 2022 @11:22PM (#34145085)
> Why are they in a panic over ChatGpt?

The NYTimes and the rest of the media misread between the lines on this story.

Google aren't worried about competition. They are worried about losing the war with SEO.

ChatGPT showed them a glimpse of the SEO endgame. It upsets the balance between search ranking/boosting and SEO. Whatever adaptations they put into their boosting algo, GPT-style AI can eventually learn. Once learned, it can be subverted.

Fundamentally search boosting is at a disadvantage, because SEO has (blackbox) access to the boosting algo by feeding content to the crawlers and running searches. However the booster doesn't have access to the SEO algo; in fact it doesn't even know (beyond a guess) how many discrete SEO algos it is fighting, or which sites are optimized by which algos. So there is great asymmetry there.

That is why the fire alarm was pulled.