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Re:Ask HN: What is your favorite front end state management ... by solardev on Monday December 26, 2022 @12:36AM (#34134899)
The Redux system is really hard to trace through in an IDE. It turns every simple function into lines of boilerplate spread across multiple files, and simple business logic becomes so much harder to read.

Maybe I'm just not smart enough, but I've been working with Redux for a few months and I get more confused every time I look at it, despite hours of videos and documentation and tutorials. It's just not at all clear to me what it's doing behind the scenes and how the typings get transfered and what's happening during async operations.

I don't think I'd ever want to use Redux again after this experience. I'd much rather deal with performance problems than the layers of unreadable abstractions that Redux uses...

Re:Ask HN: What is your favorite front end state management ... by ricardobayes on Monday December 26, 2022 @04:39AM (#34136156)
Maybe that's where part of your confusion lies, the redux flow itself is completely synchronous. I've seen people write async dispatch(), then getting confused as to why it's not taking effect. Probably writing lots of state machines in C helped. Redux at its core is basically just a state machine. Through functions (actions) you invoke the reducers which change the state. And then you use that state in your app. I do agree that the documentation around redux is not very clear at the minute. And I will add that the best tool is the one you understand the best.
Re:Ask HN: What is your favorite front end state management ... by qudat on Monday December 26, 2022 @08:35AM (#34137492)
Like most systems, it’s all about how it is setup. I’ve learned over 5-7 years how to organize FE (with redux) code so it is readable. Also inheriting a system can be quite the burden and I could see how it was be difficult to grok.

I also heavily leverage https://github.com/neurosnap/robodux to treat redux as a database.

At the end of the day, redux is an event emitter (pub/sub) with a single object that stores all of your state that multiple components need to reuse.

Re:Ask HN: What is your favorite front end state management ... by acemarke on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @12:03PM (#34150659)
Just to check, are you using "modern Redux" with Redux Toolkit + React-Redux hooks, or the older-style legacy "handwritten" Redux patterns that existed before Redux Toolkit?

If you haven't seen RTK, we designed it to make Redux a lot simpler to learn and use:

- https://redux.js.org/introduction/why-rtk-is-redux-today

- https://redux.js.org/tutorials/essentials/part-2-app-structu...

- https://blog.isquaredsoftware.com/2022/06/presentations-mode...