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Re:How Did Sam Bankman-Fried Get Bail? by carapace on Saturday December 24, 2022 @12:11PM (#34118749)
The Kingdom of Bhutan. It sounds fabulous, but it's a real place.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhutan

Re:How Did Sam Bankman-Fried Get Bail? by Godel_unicode on Saturday December 24, 2022 @01:54PM (#34119883)
According to the Asia Development Bank 8.2% of the population lives below the poverty line, was your point that this is a low percentage?

https://www.adb.org/countries/bhutan/poverty

Re:How Did Sam Bankman-Fried Get Bail? by carapace on Saturday December 24, 2022 @02:04PM (#34119987)
Did you read up on the place before looking for that stat?
Re:How Did Sam Bankman-Fried Get Bail? by Godel_unicode on Saturday December 24, 2022 @03:50PM (#34120959)
I did, did you? I’ll ask again, if that wasn’t your point then what point were you trying to make?
Re:How Did Sam Bankman-Fried Get Bail? by carapace on Monday December 26, 2022 @09:59AM (#34138073)
There are a few points that could be made. The primary point is that even though they might score low on some metric, the people of Bhutan are pretty much all well-off and happy. The king decreed democracy not long ago. It's a kind of "existence proof" that people can pretty much be alright.

Consider a couple of other stats from that site:

> the proportion of population with access to electricity in 2020 was 100%.

and a 2.5% unemployment rate.

Re:How Did Sam Bankman-Fried Get Bail? by Godel_unicode on Monday December 26, 2022 @01:14PM (#34140184)
Sure, but that’s the answer to “can poor people more or less be alright “. Which while interesting is orthogonal to the question of “can a society exist with no poor people”.
Re:How Did Sam Bankman-Fried Get Bail? by carapace on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @10:43AM (#34149569)
Fair enough, but I feel that, at that point, we're getting into semantic weeds over the definition of "poor", eh?

For concreteness, I'll say that I would define "poor" as not having the capability to satisfy the lower tiers of Maslow's hierarchy. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs ) By that standard Bhutan isn't poor despite being technically a Third World nation.

Re:How Did Sam Bankman-Fried Get Bail? by Godel_unicode on Saturday December 31, 2022 @02:14AM (#34194377)
I think it’s axiomatically true that if you change definitions at will then anything can mean anything. I don’t think that’s useful for enhancing understanding.