I have a family member with a model s plaid and have driven it quite a bit, it’s an incredible car that’s been flawless for years. So many car companies have put out dog shit for decades, I don’t understand why Tesla seems to get all the hate.

Elon Musk is pretty much single handedly destroying their brand as we speak

It’s political. I’m in the tribe that loves what Elon Musk is currently doing. But many are in the tribe that hates what Musk is doing because it threatens the arrangements that benefited their tribe for many years.

You're in the tribe of fan-boy Musk stans who gullibly believe and parrot without question anything Elon Musk says no matter how ludicrous and manifestly false and cruel, who don't have the intellectual honesty or rudimentary research skills to bother expending the slightest effort trying to fact-check his obvious lies against reality, and instead knowingly spread his lies at the non-refundable expense of your own integrity and reputation, and then you suddenly go conspicuously silent when confronted with the objective evidence that you're deluded and spreading lies.

Your admission of one-sided tribalism and hysterically thin skinned criticism of other tribes is purely psychological projection and an admission of guilt about what you're actually doing yourself.

Is Musk's shutting down the suicide prevention system over Christmas and his pathological easily disproven lies about it (that his own very own latest Head of Trust and Safety Ella Irwin promptly contradicted in public and on the record) really the hill you choose to die on?

That just goes to show what kind of a person you and Musk really are. It actually is just all about the cruelty, isn't it?

Case in point:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34122346

cbeach:

Claimed “sources familiar with the matter” who can’t be named.

Meanwhile the CEO of the actual company concerned confirms the news report of this notorious leftwing hack paper is factually incorrect.

DonHopkins:

Then explain why his latest head of trust and safety contradicted him. Her name is Ella Irwin. She's certainly familiar with the matter, and definitely not anonymous, and now you know her name. Musk is a bald faced liar, and you're willingly gullible to believe him, and dishonest to spread his lies and blame it on "fake news". Have any more false conspiracy theories you want to spread?

https://www.mediaite.com/online/twitter-removes-thereishelp-...

Twitter head of trust and safety Ella Irwin sent Reuters an email after the article was published. “We have been fixing and revamping our prompts,” she wrote. “They were just temporarily removed while we do that.”

“We know these prompts are useful in many cases and just want to make sure they are functioning properly and continue to be relevant,” Irwin added.

The two sources who told the Reuters reporters about Musk’s decision to disable the feature requested anonymity because they “feared retaliation,” the outlet reported. “One of them said millions of people had encountered #ThereIsHelp messages.”

The decision to disable the feature — even temporarily — was sharply criticized, especially because of the timing during the holiday season.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34127061

According to Musk himself, who is a liar, which is my point. It's pretty pathetic when his fan-boy stans spread his lies for him without checking the facts. That winningness to destroy your own reputation by lying for him is shameful and disgraceful.

You should spend more time correcting your mistaken beliefs by learning the truth, than spreading Musk's lies out of intellectual lazyness and willingly gullible unquestioning ignorance.

Why you should NEVER believe Elon Musk!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN-kajBcyew

Elon Musk, War Profiteering? W-T-F!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qGg6wiXoSc

Why you should NEVER believe Elon Musk! (part Deux)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO9yw9QThzU

Elon Musks BIG mistake!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sCYxE0_W-s

Why you should NEVER believe Elon Musk! (Part 33 ⅓)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrwkNp_AOjQ

This is a strange rant, with a lot of unreasonable assumptions.

It's unreasonable to assume Musk isn't lying, especially after his own Head of Trust and Safety Ella Irwin directly contradicted him in public and on the record.

He (cbeach) falsely whined that the source can't be named, but that's just not true: Ella Irwin is the name of the source who works for Twitter as Head of Trust and Safety, who authoritatively claimed on behalf of the company that “We have been fixing and revamping our prompts,” she wrote. “They were just temporarily removed while we do that.”

There are many sources:

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/twitter...

https://www.engadget.com/twitter-restores-suicde-prevention-...

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/dec/24/twitter-r...

https://www.transcontinentaltimes.com/twitter-brings-back-it...

Crying "fake news" when the facts contradict what you said just like Musk or Trump just makes you look idiotic and delusional.

While her claim may or not be true with respect to WHY they actually removed the suicide prompts (there's no reason Twitter would disable the system in place before rolling out a new system, ESPECIALLY during the holiday season when so many people commit suicide), it certainly does confirm beyond a doubt that Twitter DID remove the suicide prompts, which absolutely proves Elon Musk definitely did lie about that. No argument about that.

But that's no surprise to anyone but the most gullible fanboy, because it is a widely known well established fact that Elon Musk is a serial liar, because he has such a long track record of lying about so many things, all very well documented. There's no argument about that either, it's a well established objective fact.

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