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Re:The Mathematical Hacker by kovac on Friday December 23, 2022 @08:34PM (#34112877)
College-level means undergraduate-level? If so, how is algebra/calculus not that hard? Abstract algebra is one of the hardest stuff I've come across. Calculus? Do you think it's not that hard to prove convergence/bounds/limits of random series and sequences... I agree though that calculus is not that hard, compared to the rest.

Programming is child's play compared to undergraduate mathematics taught in math departments. It's important that you take a module from the math department, not from a physical science or engineering department if you want to experience what it is like.

Re:The Mathematical Hacker by kthielen on Friday December 23, 2022 @10:03PM (#34113461)
> Programming is child's play compared to undergraduate mathematics taught in math departments.

One thing you might learn in math is to avoid making overgeneralized statements that you can’t support.

A valid substitution in your statement for “programming” is writing a compiler. And for “undergraduate mathematics taught in math departments”, basic differential calculus.

Yet we regularly teach smart high school students and first-year undergraduates calculus, and almost never try to teach them to write a compiler, contradicting your proposition.

But what do I know? I’m just a dumb programmer. I can’t read your mind, so maybe you had something a little more specific you wanted to say.

Re:The Mathematical Hacker by ThrowawayR2 on Saturday December 24, 2022 @07:12PM (#34122618)
> "Yet we regularly teach smart high school students and first-year undergraduates calculus..."

High school students are taught plug-and-chug calculus where one uses rules and formulae without any real understanding of the underlying subtleties that make calculus work.

Re:The Mathematical Hacker by kthielen on Saturday December 24, 2022 @09:01PM (#34123326)
Bulletproof counter argument, you sure showed me.