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Re:The year of the RSS reader (really) by rsynnott on Friday December 23, 2022 @10:54AM (#34107132)
The bit I find fascinating about Reader, and its impact (I’m convinced that its death resulted in an immediate strong surge towards social media centralisation), is that it was entirely contingent; it didn’t have to happen. There are many parallel universes where Google (a) didn’t make an rss reader so dominant that it became The RSS Reader and then (b) kill it. In a healthier market with a bunch of widely used readers, things would have been very different.

(Reader’s impact was particularly dramatic because a lot of ostensibly separate products like NNW started using it as a backend…)

And, if, as seems at least plausible, over the next year or so Twitter crumbles and decentralised social media (whether in the form of Mastodon et al, blogs or something else) comes back, again, totally contingent! An idiot buying Twitter and breaking it wasn’t some sort of historical inevitability, just a weird high-impact thing that happened.

Re:The year of the RSS reader (really) by the_duke on Friday December 23, 2022 @01:51PM (#34109320)
It think you got things very mixed up here.

Google Reader was shut down in 2013.

At that time Facebook was THE hugely dominant social network, with Twitter solidly established, and Instagram rapidly becoming popular.

Google Reader was well past it's prime, most "regular" users had already moved to those platform, outside of the more hardcore Tech circles.

Google Plus was also really struggling,so they probably wanted to push the user base on to their "real" social network.

Re:The year of the RSS reader (really) by rsynnott on Friday December 23, 2022 @02:06PM (#34109474)
Yeah, the RSS ecosystem was never the leading ‘social network’ by number of users, but it used to be systemically important, in a way that it isn’t today. Keeping track of what was happening in many fields (particularly tech, but also others) used to be primarily via RSS, now Twitter (and in some cases moving to Mastodon, now).
Re:The year of the RSS reader (really) by hinkley on Friday December 23, 2022 @02:23PM (#34109655)
I never used Reader but I did use another one that also folded, a year or two before Reader went away. Then it got bought and came back, changed, and that stutter interrupted my process and I never really recovered. I set up Feedly and then don’t use it.

I think I’m from the generation(s) that expect to spend a lot of time in a browser window instead of hopping between applications triggered by notifications. So the moment I put something into an app, if it’s not situation dependent like Apple Fitness, or team chat for work, it’s just too much friction to make it a habit.

Re:The year of the RSS reader (really) by wink on Friday December 23, 2022 @05:37PM (#34111393)
The most fascinating bit for me is that people actually used any of the social features of Google Reader. I just read my feeds and interacted with nobody, and that wasn't too uncommon in my circles.
Re:The year of the RSS reader (really) by rsynnott on Saturday December 24, 2022 @10:19AM (#34117578)
Oh, I’m not sure how many people ever used Google Reader’s _own_ social features. But RSS facilitated social networking via blog (remember, for a while ~every blog had comments and trackbacks, on which twitter quote-retweets are based), and, unfortunately, Reader became so synonymous with RSS that its death largely killed that ecosystem. It was really noticeable at the time; blog activity really fell off, and even if you switched to an alternative RSS reader which stayed working (a lot of readers used Reader as a backend!) you had to switch to Twitter to keep up with what was going on.