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Re:Thanks Dang, Happy Holidays! by eru on Friday December 23, 2022 @07:49AM (#34105218)
I also had pleasant interactions with dang. Thanks!

> Incidentally, it also gradually managed to cure me from free-speech absolutism. (By now, I think almost all Xisms and extremes are nonsense, but that‘s a different hot discussion to be had).

Just out of curiosity, were you in favour of absolute free-speech on a private forum like HN, or that there shouldn't be laws banning specific speech acts?

Re:Thanks Dang, Happy Holidays! by endymi0n on Friday December 23, 2022 @08:44AM (#34105699)
It was more of a philosophical than a political support of free speech, minted by the same forces of the early internet (in a time of true single-channel mainstream media) that a lot of us older hackers experienced.

It‘s just that over time I realized that in such a situation not the most accurate and consistent voice would win, just the most obnoxious, manipulating and brazenly lying.

There seems to be a tipping point lurking behind „pretty free speech“.

Counter-intuitively, I‘ve seen deeper, way more meaningful, effective and vulnerable conversation happening in places with very high amounts of moderation (EO Gestalt language protocol, Chatham House rules).

Count me in as a fan of well done moderation these days.

Re:Thanks Dang, Happy Holidays! by eru on Friday December 23, 2022 @10:05AM (#34106580)
Thanks for explaining. Sounds very reasonable.