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Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by m463 on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @07:14PM (#34088119)
I bought two electric mountain bikes.

You don't care about "weight in grams" for each part.

You can get good exercise by lowering the assist level. You can raise the assist level for tricky parts or to get back to the car.

But the best part is getting TWO electric bikes - it lets you take someone with you, optimize for fun and minimize things like different ability or fitness levels.

Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by midoridensha on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @07:52PM (#34088362)
Buying two bikes to have a spare for a friend doesn't really work, unless all your friends are close to your height. If you're tall, you can't ride really short-frame bikes, and your short friends can't ride yours. Bikes aren't one-size-fits all. And depending on the bike, there's only so much adjustability.
Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by burnished on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @08:16PM (#34088522)
What? Did you forget that people know who their friends are, and can guess at who would be accommodated by a second bike?
Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by midoridensha on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @08:37PM (#34088661)
Ok, so you have one short friend and one tall friend. Now you're going to buy 3 bikes so you can have everyone covered? What happens when you get a new friend that doesn't fit your existing bikes?
Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by burnished on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @08:44PM (#34088709)
Then, in that specific instance, I might hesitate to buy a spare vs purchasing a gift for a friend.

Trying to legislate simple statements as if they needed to be universal law, and judging them as failures because you failed to find a a way to do that, does not make the simple statement bad.

Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by midoridensha on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @11:03PM (#34089647)
In this case, it does, because people vary wildly in heights and bikes aren't easily adjustable to wildly differing heights. The statement was given as advice, and it's bad advice. There are certain types of bikes engineered to be highly adjustable (think bike-share bikes) for different rider sizes, but these aren't the norm for privately-owned bikes.
Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by loeg on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @11:11PM (#34089706)
eMTBs are thousands of dollars a piece. The idea of buying an extra just for friends to ride as general advice is very silly, even ignoring the problems with differing sizes. It's terrible general advice. In the specific situation where you have a lot of disposable income and a very specific friend in mind, sure, sounds fun.
Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by burnished on Thursday December 22, 2022 @02:52AM (#34090912)
Christ, at least “who has that kind of money” is a reasonable critique.
Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by m463 on Thursday December 22, 2022 @05:43AM (#34092020)
specifically, buy another one for your SO (if he/she rides).
Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by m463 on Thursday December 22, 2022 @05:42AM (#34092010)
I bought one sized for male, one sized for female. And mountain bikes have a lot more leeway in sizing than road bikes. also, dropper seat helps.