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Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by wnolens on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @05:03PM (#34086973)
I ride daily, to commute and workout and just for joy on a Sunday. In a city.

I've never considered anything but a steel frame (most common), in the realm of $1000 or less fully built.

Sure, I desire more. But we're talking about 10% satisfaction improvement for my (our) needs. And I definitely will splurge on a new bike soon, but only because I have money to burn.

I am contemplating a $3-500ish fitting with all the latest tech and a trained expert. That feels honestly worth it for anyone because it will likely save you injury.

Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by fshbbdssbbgdd on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @06:57PM (#34087999)
If your budget is $1000, you could find something really nice on the used market.
Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by skeeter2020 on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @09:03PM (#34088822)
The funny thing is you can go really expensive with steel as well. If you're at the $1000 price point you're probably not using really good brakes or wheels; both can vastly improve your ride and enjoyment.
Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by wnolens on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @09:27PM (#34088963)
I agree. There's always more to pay. But I've never thought to myself "geez my brakes aren't enough". Disc brakes are too powerful IMO, and thus dangerous. And honestly I don't even know what difference wheels would make? Mine are circular, stay true. Why do folks pay thousands on hand built wheels?

Gears/derailleurs I have a tough time with.. even nice ones seem to need constant adjustment so I ride a single speed now and feel like I discovered a bike secret.

I'd spend on fit, frame, seat, tires as a min bar to be picky about.

Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by prmoustache on Thursday December 22, 2022 @01:57AM (#34090626)
> Disc brakes are too powerful IMO, and thus dangerous.

Not true at all. People learn to modulate instinctively in a matter of seconds when switching from different bikes/brake systems.

Besides deoending on pad compound and rim material many v-brakes are very brutal with a low curve between doing nothing and grabbing hard compared to cantilevers and road calipers, so it not only about disc vs rim brake systems.