Re:3M to end 'forever chemicals' output at cost of up to $2.3B
by refurb on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @04:48AM
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I doubt it’s capitalism when communist countries were some of the worst polluters to date.
Re:3M to end 'forever chemicals' output at cost of up to $2.3B
by kennywinker on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @01:37PM
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Who are you referring to? You use the past tense, which means you're probably not pointing a finger at china - which is hardly communist, making huge strides in cleaning up their emissions, and their emissions are largely the result of making stuff for the rest of the world. Which means you're probably talking about now-defunct communist countries, i.e. the soviet union?
So your argument against capitalism driving pollution in the hundreds of countries around the world where it appears to be driving pollution is a single example? A country that did most of it's polluting during a rapid industrialization with the stated goal of "catching up with the west". Meanwhile during that same soviet period not one but *two* rivers caught on fire in a single year in the USA.
Which is all to say that I'm unconvinced. It really seems like the driver of most of the pollution in the world has been capitalism. Perhaps communism is worse, but that doesn't let capitalism off the hook - it's not a two-choice binary system here.
Re:3M to end 'forever chemicals' output at cost of up to $2.3B
by anonkogudhyfhhf on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @04:49AM
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Not really. Countries define property rights and solve problems. Domestic overfishing is countries removing externalities and making them part of the market
Competition goes beyond just companies too, countries compete with each other, to the point of starting wars over e.g. natural resources, territory, and access to infrastructure. And one future scenario is wars over more basic resources like food and water, as climate change will cause droughts and famines. At the very least it will (and already is) triggering mass migrations.