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Re:How did Roomba-recorded photos end up on Facebook? by gernb on Monday December 19, 2022 @06:23PM (#34059305)
And, so, did you do the right thing and return it or did you just accept and therefore effectively indicate to Roomba by your actions that you're ok with it?

I've returned several "smart" devices that required an app and an account. One example is GoVee smart blubs. As soon as they refused to work without an account I sent them back. Another is some Meross smart outlets. I retuned them for Eve Energy outlets.

Re:How did Roomba-recorded photos end up on Facebook? by 0xbadc0de5 on Monday December 19, 2022 @06:31PM (#34059379)
An approach that has worked for me is to ensure that any smart devices I buy are supported by Tasmota. I just flash the Tasmota firmware as step-1, then pair the devices with HomeAssistant. Doesn't necessarily send the direct message that returning it does, but at least I can avoid the unnecessary telemetry/tracking.
Re:How did Roomba-recorded photos end up on Facebook? by EMIRELADERO on Monday December 19, 2022 @07:08PM (#34059720)
> And, so, did you do the right thing and return it or did you just accept and therefore effectively indicate to Roomba by your actions that you're ok with it?

The burden is on them to not perform those actions, not on me.

I should be fully entitled to make use of the product without agreeing to any additional contracts or permissions.

Re:How did Roomba-recorded photos end up on Facebook? by taneq on Monday December 19, 2022 @10:53PM (#34061334)
You should be, but you’re not.
Re:How did Roomba-recorded photos end up on Facebook? by EMIRELADERO on Monday December 19, 2022 @11:36PM (#34061595)
Many consumer protection laws would disagree. Also check out the Andino v. Apple ongoing lawsuit
Re:How did Roomba-recorded photos end up on Facebook? by brnt on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @12:53AM (#34062080)
How I deal with this: I don't install the app. They still work pretty well without. I did recently buy one that has great Valetudo support, but for now the flash instructions are a bit too complicated with respect to the fact it works well without setting up apps or internet connection.
Re:How did Roomba-recorded photos end up on Facebook? by TheHappyOddish on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @05:42AM (#34064116)
I returned my $4000 LG TV after 2 years of use, as they suddenly tried to force me to agree to a new set of T&Cs and privacy policy. I called them and they told me that there's no way for me to continue using the TV without agreeing. Incredibly illegal (in my country), but I doubt most people notice or care.
Re:How did Roomba-recorded photos end up on Facebook? by sizzle on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @02:55PM (#34071543)
The app always tries to explain that location is “required” for Bluetooth/WiFi pairing in my experience, can someone more knowledgeable confirm if this is an iOS/Android limitation or are app developers blowing smoke to get this data from users during setup/onboarding networked devices