Re:How did Roomba-recorded photos end up on Facebook?
by karmakaze on Monday December 19, 2022 @04:41PM
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The part that's missing is that it isn't just "a Roomba", it's "a Roomba labelled with “video recording in progress”". Saying 'a Roomba' implies that it could've been done from any Roomba.
Re:How did Roomba-recorded photos end up on Facebook?
by gretch on Monday December 19, 2022 @04:46PM
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The article addresses this head on. Even though those users once consented to share data “It’s not expected that human beings are going to be reviewing the raw footage.”
The meat of the article is that what technology and tech companies are doing is divorced from the expectations that we have as a society.
It couldn’t have been done from any roomba, but it could happen to almost everyone who didn’t understand the exact ramifications (which we click through several of every year to try to get the vacuum up and running). That’s why a lot of ppl on HN put masking tape over their laptop webcam. Or are you calling those people paranoid?
Re:How did Roomba-recorded photos end up on Facebook?
by adamrezich on Monday December 19, 2022 @05:17PM
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how did we get to the point where people have Internet-connected cameras and microphones everywhere in their houses yet implicitly trust that anything recorded will never under any circumstances be viewed by another human being
Re:How did Roomba-recorded photos end up on Facebook?
by waffleiron on Monday December 19, 2022 @05:29PM
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I think the second part of your sentence is a least a partial answer to your first part.
Re:How did Roomba-recorded photos end up on Facebook?
by nullc on Monday December 19, 2022 @06:03PM
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Couldn't it have been? after all they can remotely update the firmware. They just weren't in this case.
Re:How did Roomba-recorded photos end up on Facebook?
by twelve40 on Monday December 19, 2022 @05:08PM
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it's great that you personally are thorough enough to dig into the article and see for yourself - my favorite data set size of 1 and conclusions from that - but half the people even here, let alone outside of hn, will just grab the headline and run with it, saying "I heard roombas spy on people", and that's a problem. And the people who wrote this article know this full well.
Re:How did Roomba-recorded photos end up on Facebook?
by mikem170 on Monday December 19, 2022 @07:25PM
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What's the worst that happens, someone buys an older roomba without a camera or gets some exercise using a vacuum?
Would it be a bad thing if people erred on the side of being too private, for a change?
A lot of people think it is a problem that people are blindly trust big tech tracking everything they do, or are uninformed about this sort of thing.
But yes, the real story is that training data (and “real” data) does leak all the time and that most companies don’t take insider risk as seriously as they should.