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Re:Did Insurance Fire Brigades let uninsured buildings burn? by rayiner on Monday December 19, 2022 @02:28PM (#34056479)
> It's level of isolation (both in terms of distance to the next large city and hospitability of the land in between) is similar to Las Vegas. Salt Lake City isn't too far off either. America is huge.

Right. The issue isn't so much that "America lets people die because they don't pay." It's that "America gives people the freedom to live in the middle of fucking nowhere, including where a state or local government can't reasonably commit to offering reliable emergency services."

Re:Did Insurance Fire Brigades let uninsured buildings burn? by that_guy_iain on Monday December 19, 2022 @02:39PM (#34056611)
Except, in the link scenario. Stop trying to twist it. Every other country has communities that live so far from anyone that they're in trouble if they have a heart attack. But you know what? They still have something. House burning down? The local volunteer fire fighters will help you out. Not, we'll come out and put out your neighbours fire and stop and the fence line. And ignore you and refuse any offer of money to help you.

The issue is the US can't get it's shit together. And they can't get their shit together because Americans accept it. They just think "That's they're problem".

Re:Did Insurance Fire Brigades let uninsured buildings burn? by bloppe on Monday December 19, 2022 @03:58PM (#34057610)
The US operates on a fundamentally different scale from most other countries. It's so big and diverse (in terms of both people and biomes) that the only effective way to organize is heavily federated. Fire laws in California are very different from in Tennessee. There are a few ways to accurately paint Americans in broad strokes, but not many.

I'd encourage you to travel around America a bit. Foreigners are often shocked by how nice and helpful people are here. Americans are by far the most financially charitable people in the world [1] but can be famously neighborly in many more ways than that.

[1]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_charita...

Re:Did Insurance Fire Brigades let uninsured buildings burn? by lmm on Monday December 19, 2022 @05:36PM (#34058769)
America has the largest amount of recorded donations to their rather stretched legal definition of a "charity". This says a lot more about the American tax code than it does about American generosity. I'd encourage you to travel around the world a bit.
Re:Did Insurance Fire Brigades let uninsured buildings burn? by RC_ITR on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @12:10AM (#34061796)
Lmfao. I’d encourage you to really look inward and understand why you’re trying to gatekeeper the definition of charity.

What pray tell makes a legitimate charity and why did you get to decide?

Re:Did Insurance Fire Brigades let uninsured buildings burn? by RC_ITR on Monday December 19, 2022 @04:40PM (#34058146)
The linked scenario was controversial because this one small town of 2,500 chose to not help (vs. the standard proactive of other towns that do help). I'd love to use a town of 2,500's actions to define the morality of your country...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Fulton,_Tennessee#%22Pay...

Re:Did Insurance Fire Brigades let uninsured buildings burn? by chinchilla2020 on Monday December 19, 2022 @08:05PM (#34060199)
>Every other country has communities that live so far from anyone that they're in trouble if they have a heart attack. But you know what? They still have something. House burning down? The local volunteer fire fighters will help you out.

You are revealing your lack of knowledge about the American wilderness simply by stating this. The US is so vast that there are massive swaths of land that you could not get a fire truck to the scene in half a day. It is difficult to imagine such a place if you have spent your life living in a heavily urbanized European country with no actual wilderness (I've seen what Germans and French call 'wilderness' and it is actually a medium-sized park)

Re:Did Insurance Fire Brigades let uninsured buildings burn? by that_guy_iain on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @09:22AM (#34066261)
Haha my country literally has people living on islands in the middle of a sea. We still hook them up.