Re:The Decline and Fall of the American Empire
by akkartik on Thursday December 29, 2011 @04:46PM
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But bush != congress.
Perhaps you're reading more hyperbole than I'm putting in :)
Re:The Decline and Fall of the American Empire
by serverdude on Thursday December 29, 2011 @05:37PM
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Sure that certainly is one way of looking at it. When I said Bush - I did not mean literally Bush. I think we both made our points - so I give it a rest :)
Re:The Decline and Fall of the American Empire
by akkartik on Thursday December 29, 2011 @05:43PM
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Yeah. Just to clarify:
a) I'm claiming Congress is utterly irrelevant as it is today without outside intervention.
b) There's lots of dysfunction to go around, but I never meant to make blanket claims about anything but congress.
You're quite possibly right that my indignation is fresh and excessive after watching that talk :)
All I am saying is that your statement is a "bit of hyperbole". Things are never black and white when we are talking about such complicated topics. As an example, according to your statement, it would not have mattered if someone else had been elected instead of Bush. Whereas I think it is highly likely that Iraq war (for better or worse) would not have happened if Bush had not been elected.