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Re:Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now? by phrom on Sunday December 18, 2022 @05:33PM (#34044556)
True, because of how necessary OS updates / security fixes are, sooner or later you're forced to upgrade, even on a "buy once" model. But in that model, at least there was still a chance of an effective user boycott.

When Windows Vista and Windows 8 released, people got mad, and enough of them stuck to Windows XP and Windows 7 that Microsoft had to address it, for example by going back on the Windows 8 start menu. Now that they're switching to this permanent license, free upgrade, model, that is going away. Thankfully Windows 11 is very boring, but if they pulled off another 8 start menu, there'll be no real way for people to avoid it or have their voice heard now.

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Re:Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now? by winternett on Sunday December 18, 2022 @11:03PM (#34048328)
The key is to also keep your old hardware conveniently offline until they drop pushing forced updates to it... It works surprisingly well when no patches are applied, and documentation is usually quite thorough.
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