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Re:Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now? by solardev on Sunday December 18, 2022 @04:19PM (#34043564)
How so? Tech is moving so fast across multiple fronts that software obsolescence happens much quicker than before, not due to the developer themselves, but I mean things like Windows changing driver models, Apple changing silicon, Android APIs constantly evolving, web technologies mutating like a cancer... old versions quickly become useless without active maintenance.

Meanwhile the subscription services largely keep pace with one another and stay compatible because most users are on the latest version.

Re:Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now? by lapcat on Sunday December 18, 2022 @04:39PM (#34043805)
> old versions quickly become useless without active maintenance.

I think this is somewhat exaggerated. Not to mention that if you're using older versions of 3rd party software, you can use older versions of the OS too. In fact, many people don't like to update their OS version. If it ain't broke...

> Meanwhile the subscription services largely keep pace with one another and stay compatible because most users are on the latest version.

How is this different from upfront paid software? The latest versions of that stay compatible too. You may have to pay an upgrade fee, but that generally doesn't happen every year, unlike subscriptions.

Re:Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now? by solardev on Sunday December 18, 2022 @05:07PM (#34044101)
Is it? A lot of my favorite games no longer work on the latest operating systems because they were on a buy once model. Others had their multiplayer shut down.

As for upfront paid software, sometimes it's also just not worth it to the developer to make a whole new version anymore or they shut down. The shareware industry is pretty much dead today, for example, although free trials for cloud subs are still very common. I think the sub model smooths out the feast and famine cycles, ultimately, and make for more intentional and less panicked releases.

Re:Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now? by lapcat on Sunday December 18, 2022 @05:22PM (#34044300)
> A lot of my favorite games no longer work on the latest operating systems because they were on a buy once model.

How long ago did you buy them?

> As for upfront paid software, sometimes it's also just not worth it to the developer to make a whole new version anymore or they shut down.

Lots of businesses shut down, regardless of business model.

> more intentional and less panicked releases

As a software developer, I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean.

Re:Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now? by phrom on Sunday December 18, 2022 @05:21PM (#34044287)
Those old games still run on the old operating systems, and you can still get those systems because they were also on a buy once model.

If those old games were subscriptions instead, they would probably be unplayable today. Their authentication servers would be shutdown after so few players remained that it wouldn't be worth it for the company to keep it going. Just like a lot of multiplayer games are closed nowadays.

Re:Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now? by Faark on Sunday December 18, 2022 @08:28PM (#34047024)
phrom already mentioned the "old subscription-products die" aspect.

The other thing games tended to do, that is basically a subscription, was frequent, sometimes yearly, releases. You just buy this years iteration of fifa or CoD. Playing the latest "version" will on current hardware, just like a subscription. Compare that to Fortnite, where you don't have a choice but play the latest version (i heard they removed building?!? not that i liked it, but that's certainly a change!).