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Re:Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now? by lapcat on Sunday December 18, 2022 @04:08PM (#34043412)
By this principle, every physical product in the world would be "a Ponzi scheme".
Re:Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now? by duckmysick on Sunday December 18, 2022 @05:22PM (#34044302)
I thought about it and a lot of physical products we use everyday are either perishables themselves or require perishables for a regular maintenance.

Yes, we aren't forced to buy from the exact same brands like in a subscription model. Practically, we end up buying the same products in a predictable schedule, to keep the wheel spinning.

Re:Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now? by lapcat on Sunday December 18, 2022 @05:45PM (#34044813)
A lot? Furniture? Clothing? Cars? Electronics? Appliances? Physical books? [takes off glasses to think] Glasses?

Physical products wear out eventually, but they can last for many years. They're not necessarily perishable.

Re:Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now? by duckmysick on Sunday December 18, 2022 @07:15PM (#34046265)
Yes, for the second category I mentioned: "require perishables for a regular maintenance".

Cleaning products, washing powder, fabric softener, bleach, fuel, windshield wiper fluid, tires, batteries.

Books, sure, they seem to be maintenance-free. I guess glasses too.

Re:Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now? by lapcat on Sunday December 18, 2022 @07:23PM (#34046363)
Could you explain how clothing needing to be cleaned is relevant to subscriptions? After all, you don't have to buy the cleaning products from the clothing manufacturer. Same for car tires, etc. So the clothing companies and car companies aren't making any extra money from this.
Re:Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now? by throwaway2037 on Sunday December 18, 2022 @09:02PM (#34047350)
I agree with your original post. Very thoughtful. The subscription version of glasses is contact lenses. Plus, most people need a tweak to their vision prescription every year (or two), so they need to update lenses.
Re:Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now? by Gigachad on Sunday December 18, 2022 @08:30PM (#34047046)
Most physical products don't require constant work to be done. Software will mostly stop working properly if not updated.
Re:Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now? by lapcat on Sunday December 18, 2022 @08:47PM (#34047200)
Re:Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now? by Gigachad on Sunday December 18, 2022 @09:34PM (#34047621)
There aren’t always new customers to sell to. When your system requires on constant growth to not collapse, it isn’t sustainable. A Ponzi scheme is the closest way I can describe it but I wouldn’t say it’s fraud since you weren’t promised future updates. You just implicitly require and expect them.
Re:Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now? by lapcat on Sunday December 18, 2022 @09:46PM (#34047725)
I really don't see how there's any difference between software and physical products.

Businesses are working year-round — manufacturers are manufacturing new products, software developers are writing software updates — and also selling year-round. If you run out of customers, that's of course a problem, but that's not a unique problem to software.

As a software developer, I sell new copies year-round, every day, and also release updates year-round. If I run out of new customers I'll let you know, but last month was actually my best sales month ever.

What do you mean exactly by "constant growth"? You need constant sales, yes. You don't necessarily need a constant increase in sales, if sales are at a sustainable level.