Re:Milgram experiment (1963) (02:17 minutes)
by neaden on Saturday December 17, 2022 @04:05PM
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A reminder that Milligram faked and selectively edited his data: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/01/rethinkin... along with the equally famous and equally fake Stanford Prison experiment this was an "experiment" that had predefined results that has stuck around because it's what many of us want to believe.
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Re:Milgram experiment (1963) (02:17 minutes)
by chedca21 on Saturday December 17, 2022 @04:19PM
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Professor John Ioannidis of Stanford University, quotes an infection fatality rate (IFR) for Covid of 0.00-0.57% (0.05% for under 70s), far lower than originally feared and no different to severe flu [3]. This paper is published on WHO’s own Bulletin but ignored by UK mainstream media.
Just a flu but crash the economy and mandate medical interventions for all?
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/why-some-doctors-... , this PIP protocol for ventilators kills people but its important for everyone's safety
You're just like the Germans of the third rich. Institutions giving you insane instructions and you comply and comply.
Milgram may have faked his data but you are proof that he may as well have. He was right anyway.
Re:Milgram experiment (1963) (02:17 minutes)
by mola on Saturday December 17, 2022 @05:30PM
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There's been plenty of replications and variations done all over the world with similar results. The Atlantic magazine and other publications circa 2015 ran with this clickbaity narrative because it's , well, a good clickbait. But even though milgrams own expirements have been criticized, those replications do len credibility to the effect.
See Wikipedia for details...
Re:Milgram experiment (1963) (02:17 minutes)
by Enginerrrd on Saturday December 17, 2022 @06:49PM
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Yeah as I see it, the attacks on Milgram were part of a larger fad that went around of finding any excuse to attack unethical science of the past as unscientific and useless or unhelpful. I think previously, the narrative was that such experiments were at least helpful or informative, and that made some people uncomfortable. I think also the particular conclusions of the Milgram and Stanford experiments also deeply upset university liberals because they humanized oppressors and provided some source of empathy for them. There are undoubtedly issues with all such historical science, but I think fighting that small window of empathy is misguided personally, because it forgets one of the most important lessons of history: There really are lots of "normal" people capable of great atrocities under the right conditions. I think it's important and takes more work to pay attention to those conditions, rather than to simply label the perpetrators as evil or inhuman and move on.