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Re:The strange case of Britain’s demise by petesergeant on Saturday December 17, 2022 @11:14AM (#34029046)
> Corbyn was a leftie ... but he’s a leader of a left wing party

Corbyn was hard left in a distinctly centrist country whose "Left Wing Party" is (despite its roots) very much left-leaning centrist, and who's only ever seen real success while occupying the middle-ground.

> voters want something like Tory-lite. Blair did that and no one wants to go back to it

If nobody wanted to go back to it then we'd have Rebecca Long-Bailey as Leader of His Majesty's Most Loyal Opposition, not another centrist.

Re:The strange case of Britain’s demise by gghhzzgghhzz on Saturday December 17, 2022 @12:39PM (#34030094)
The policies were popular. 2017 saw the reversal of decline in Labour votes that started under Blair. Labour got more votes than any Blair election other than 1997.

There is a large constituency against the status quo in the UK. We have proof of that in the 2016 Brexit referendum, where 17 million people voted strongly against the establishment line and effectively against an economic model that we had had for 40 years. People voted in part to take back control, and what is nationalisation of basic aspects of our lives like water / housing / energy / drug manufacturing / transport etc if not taking back control?

Since the pandemic, the implementation of a chaotic version of Brexit, and the cost of living crisis. The underlying aspects of the 2017 / 2019 Labour policies are even more starkly relevant. Everything has been laid bare, and for some reason the two main parties are now completely devoid of ideas or vision.