You’re:

1. Not actually detailing your life experience

2. Repeating tropes and stawmanning arguments that others aren’t making

3. Framing people you don’t agree with as “PMC people”, i.e. you’re not engaging with their arguments

Your final sentence applies in spades to how you’re arguing across the thread. Ridiculous.

Please tell me, how is one supposed to engage with the "argument" that their personal experience and resulting belief is a "propaganda driven falsehood." That's not an argument, it is pure name calling, and doesn't even make sense as this person seems to be basing their beliefs on direct experience from their own professional life.

By:

1. Not labeling people who disagree with you as “part of a professional managerial class” / people who don’t want to work (propaganda) 2. Actually citing personal experience (just saying you have personal experience isn’t a debate/argument)

> Not labeling people who disagree with you as “part of a professional managerial class” / people who don’t want to work (propaganda)

I see, you get to label others with pejoratives like "propaganda", but others are not allowed to respond in kind with labels of their own. Seems a bit one-sided.

My dad and my grandpa worked for unions for decades, and they are the hardest working people I know and take great pride in that.

Good! I’m not saying you cant be a hard worker and also in a union, or even that a pro work union couldn’t exist.

I’m saying my experience with unions is that they’re anti work, and pro PMC.

Does PMC stand for "Professional Managerial Class"?