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Re:‘Luddite’ Teens Don’t Want Your Likes by a-dub on Friday December 16, 2022 @03:02PM (#34019512)
it's the 2022 version of "kill your television" and i love it.

in practice: i wonder how practical it is to survive as an adult without a smartphone. uber has decimated cabs and i don't think you can telephone for an uber.

i wonder what else is unreachable/unworkable/etc...

Re:‘Luddite’ Teens Don’t Want Your Likes by kritiko on Friday December 16, 2022 @03:05PM (#34019554)
In Brooklyn now, it's cheaper to use a car service than Uber/Lyft, so I think you could get by fine without those apps. Getting around without Google Maps would be pretty challenging, I think.
Re:‘Luddite’ Teens Don’t Want Your Likes by depingus on Friday December 16, 2022 @03:13PM (#34019677)
> Getting around without Google Maps would be pretty challenging, I think.

I learned to drive before smartphones. I can assure you its very possible to find addresses without a phone. Heck, I still sometimes do it for fun! Nothing wrong with a little u-turn here or there.

Re:‘Luddite’ Teens Don’t Want Your Likes by rufus_foreman on Friday December 16, 2022 @05:36PM (#34021562)
Before smartphones I would use a street map, which were sold at every gas station. And if I was still having trouble, I would call for directions from a public pay phone, which were located on street corners every few blocks.
Re:‘Luddite’ Teens Don’t Want Your Likes by a-dub on Friday December 16, 2022 @03:59PM (#34020286)
just checked, chatgpt can give directions...

reminds me of the old days when i used to text GOOGL for exact addresses

Re:‘Luddite’ Teens Don’t Want Your Likes by SquareWheel on Friday December 16, 2022 @04:05PM (#34020367)
I don't carry a cellphone. The rates are atrocious in Canada, and I don't like being rung when I'm out and about.

The biggest problem is 2-factor. Many services are starting to require it, which has led me to losing access to various accounts. Looking at you, Paypal.

Otherwise, it's fine. I make a paper shopping list. I schedule meetings in advance, and show up at the expected time. Uber isn't even in my city so there's no loss there.

Re:‘Luddite’ Teens Don’t Want Your Likes by frereubu on Friday December 16, 2022 @04:20PM (#34020570)
In the UK, you can get texts sent to landline numbers. Not sure if it's carrier-dependent, but my Mum would occasionally get texts sent to her landline. She'd get a call saying that she'd received a text and the text was read to her by a computer. Perhaps that might work in Canada?
Re:‘Luddite’ Teens Don’t Want Your Likes by SquareWheel on Saturday December 17, 2022 @03:51AM (#34026072)
Thank you for the suggestion.
Re:‘Luddite’ Teens Don’t Want Your Likes by crdotson on Saturday December 17, 2022 @11:26AM (#34029178)
SMS 2 factor is terrible anyway and is on the way out, although it may still be the only choice for some services for quite a while. A hardware security key is best, and TOTP (Google Authenticator and similar) is very good and both can be used without cell connectivity.
Re:‘Luddite’ Teens Don’t Want Your Likes by SquareWheel on Saturday December 17, 2022 @02:40PM (#34031379)
In Paypal, for example, this is the screen I reach every time I try to log in.

https://i.imgur.com/V2WbK6C.png

There is no skip button. Even worse, every method I've tried to access customer support requires I be logged into an account.

I do have an Android device at home that may support TOPT, but a lot of websites still recklessly assume you have a mobile number available.