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Re:My plane is not trackable without using non-public data by looping__lui on Friday December 16, 2022 @12:13PM (#34017169)
If you are ok with Elon Musk (or any other plane) being trackable, you should be ok to have your license plate tracked and your movements published wherever you go.
Re:My plane is not trackable without using non-public data by comte7092 on Friday December 16, 2022 @12:26PM (#34017365)
So what you’re saying is that the FAA shouldn’t publicly post flight data?

Because that’s the issue, the data is already public. it’s not about whether we have a right to track planes or other vehicles, it’s that plane coordinates are already public information.

Re:My plane is not trackable without using non-public data by ZetaRicky on Friday December 16, 2022 @12:16PM (#34017209)
I see your point, but planes and cars are not on the same level, in my opinion
Re:My plane is not trackable without using non-public data by looping__lui on Saturday December 17, 2022 @02:07PM (#34031029)
They literally are.
Re:My plane is not trackable without using non-public data by aaomidi on Friday December 16, 2022 @12:15PM (#34017196)
I’m fine with planes being tracked, I’m not necessarily fine with cars being tracked.

Cars don’t have to broadcast their location to not get blown up by air defense. Planes do. And we’re legally allowed to listen to all wireless frequencies.

Re:My plane is not trackable without using non-public data by looping__lui on Saturday December 17, 2022 @02:10PM (#34031057)
Your argument doesn’t make sense. If tracking plane registrations and making that data publicly available is ok to you - you should also be fine to have your license plate scanned and your movements made publicly available to everyone.

Otherwise you are a hypocrite.

Broadcasting your location to “get avoided being blown up by air defense” is just pure non-sense. Collision avoidance yes, but what country are you living in believing that the military would just shoot down planes from the sky?

Re:My plane is not trackable without using non-public data by aaomidi on Saturday December 17, 2022 @10:06PM (#34034697)
Nearly every country will shoot a plane that’s not identifying itself out of the sky. Especially after 9/11. It’s actually policy in a lot of countries now.

Generally would happen after a visual confirmation though.

Anyway, cars don’t carry the same type of power that planes do. Cars are being tracked in most countries anyway, just that the data isn’t public.

Finally there is nothing stopping you from making a “install this software on your webcams to monitor car locations” is there? If you’re so non hypocritical, go make that software and convince folks to run it, because that’s how airplane tracking happens.

Unless you’re arguing that planes shouldn’t carry radios with them and that countries should be fine with unidentified planes in their air space?

Re:My plane is not trackable without using non-public data by looping__lui on Sunday December 18, 2022 @02:23AM (#34035695)
Yes, I’m absolutely fine with unidentified planes in airspaces. And maybe could you cite how often planes were shot down because “they didn’t carry radios”? Such nonsense.

The data with car movements not being public is exactly the point. I’m certainly not going to start tracking people’s license plates and further accelerate some dystopian society.

And no: license plates aren’t tracked everywhere. EU laws for example are rather strict about that.

Re:My plane is not trackable without using non-public data by yunohn on Friday December 16, 2022 @12:15PM (#34017198)
But Elon Musk’s license plate and movements are not being tracked?
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Re:My plane is not trackable without using non-public data by looping__lui on Saturday December 17, 2022 @02:16PM (#34031124)
Not all private planes are jets. There are >200k private aircraft in the US and the majority certainly isn’t jets…

Maybe we should also track all iphones and make that data publicly available. If people wanted privacy they could use Android…

Re:My plane is not trackable without using non-public data by richbell on Friday December 16, 2022 @02:08PM (#34018654)
License plates and cars are already tracked and that data, along with cell phone data, is sold to the highest bidder.

Palantir, founded by Elon Musk's friend Peter Thiel, is in-part responsible for making wide-scale invasive surveillance accessible to government and private industry. Elon Musk has personally hired private investigators to "stalk" people he doesn't like or suspects of wrong-doing.

Re:My plane is not trackable without using non-public data by looping__lui on Saturday December 17, 2022 @02:13PM (#34031089)
I didn’t know that license plate movements of cars are publicly available in the US. That would creep me out.

This is not about “protecting Elon Musk”. But being sensitive about tracking individuals by the means of license plates / registrations.

Re:My plane is not trackable without using non-public data by MomoXenosaga on Saturday December 17, 2022 @05:50AM (#34026693)
It's a price I'm willing to pay for investigative journalism. But I will never be worthy of https://www.bellingcat.com/ attention.