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Re:On Teenage Luddites by rufus_foreman on Friday December 16, 2022 @12:53PM (#34017728)
Great to see young people put down their phones, step away from their screens, go outside and partake in simple natural joys like...checks notes...painting graffiti on subway cars.
Re:On Teenage Luddites by rhn_mk1 on Friday December 16, 2022 @02:32PM (#34019036)
As far as misbehaviour goes, this is one of the least consequential examples, and good thrill value to boot!
Re:On Teenage Luddites by tech_ken on Friday December 16, 2022 @03:08PM (#34019604)
I love my neighborhood tags! Yeah some of it's kind of a lazy scrawl and that's annoying, but the really audacious, big production stuff is (a) aesthetically pleasing to me and (b) adds an interesting element to my urban ecology. Fascinating to see which tags get repeated in different parts of the city, and whenever I find a new one by a name I know it makes me feel connected to the place I live in an exciting way.
Re:On Teenage Luddites by 2OEH8eoCRo0 on Friday December 16, 2022 @09:34PM (#34023754)
You have a wonderfully positive attitude. I like it. I'm appropriating this viewpoint.
Re:On Teenage Luddites by plastiquebeech on Friday December 16, 2022 @02:41PM (#34019186)
People might scoff at the petty vandalism, but how many of you over the age of 35 had a scrupulously clean adolescence?

For the under-30 crowd, everything in their post-puberty lives has been carefully recorded in a semi-public ledger, and they know it.

We should expect people to declare their independence as they enter young adulthood, and it's hard to do that without space to screw up. The Facebook generation was aggressively conditioned to conform with their peers, and it warms the cockles of my heart to see gen Z pushing back against that.

Re:On Teenage Luddites by trynewideas on Friday December 16, 2022 @04:23PM (#34020619)
> People might scoff at the petty vandalism, but how many of you over the age of 35 had a scrupulously clean adolescence?

Both my parents were cops in a small rural town, and my father was physically abusive. Damn straight I was squeaky clean.

With modern technology, now every phone is both a cop and an abuse vector. Who needs dads when you've got social media?

Re:On Teenage Luddites by aidenn0 on Friday December 16, 2022 @06:28PM (#34022094)
I had a scrupulously clean adolescence. I'm not entirely sure why to this day, other than the fact I was completely certain my parents would catch me and ... ground me I guess? They certainly didn't engage in any corporal punishment.
Re:On Teenage Luddites by rufus_foreman on Friday December 16, 2022 @08:24PM (#34023181)
I'm not scoffing at the petty vandalism, I thought it was humorous to link grafittiing the subway to Luddism.

I had a wonderfully filthy adolescence, and like the subject in the article my parents often didn't know where I was at night. Unlike the subject in the article, it didn't seem to bother them. When I abandoned the C64 to spray paint "Circle Jerks" on the walls, it wasn't a rejection of technology. Spray paint is awesome. If I wanted to create a can of spray paint, I wouldn't even know where to start.

Although if the Teen Luddites had opened for the Circle Jerks, I'm guessing that would have been one ferocious pit.

Re:On Teenage Luddites by bifftastic on Friday December 16, 2022 @02:47PM (#34019284)
NYT article referred to in the article is being discussed here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34004822
Re:On Teenage Luddites by yesbut on Friday December 16, 2022 @03:29PM (#34019886)
A Luddite was "a member of any of the bands of English workers who destroyed machinery, especially in cotton and woollen mills, that they believed was threatening their jobs (1811–16)." They weren't anti-technology. They were anti-"having their jobs replaced by machines".
Re:On Teenage Luddites by aidenn0 on Friday December 16, 2022 @06:30PM (#34022105)
> broadly : one who is opposed to especially technological change

1: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Luddite

Re:On Teenage Luddites by yesbut on Friday December 16, 2022 @06:52PM (#34022322)
Hopefully abandoning the smartphone might result in these kids picking up Das Kapital at the Brooklyn library.
Re:On Teenage Luddites by UncleEntity on Friday December 16, 2022 @08:43PM (#34023333)
Sure, because the communists are well known for their rejection of tracking technology…
Re:On Teenage Luddites by Kaibeezy on Friday December 16, 2022 @10:29PM (#34024237)
Or Progress and Poverty.
Re:On Teenage Luddites by cyber_kinetist on Friday December 16, 2022 @10:41PM (#34024339)
By the way, you can view and download almost all of Marx’s works for free in the Marxists Archive! (marxists.org) Probably the advent of the Internet and smartphones have increased access to these works.
Re:On Teenage Luddites by cercatrova on Saturday December 17, 2022 @12:40AM (#34025133)
Or Capital in the 21st Century
Re:On Teenage Luddites by FooBarBizBazz on Saturday December 17, 2022 @01:30PM (#34030669)
This is a fantastic development. As all thinking people know, the Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.