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Re:Binance Is Fucked by raesene9 on Friday December 16, 2022 @07:13AM (#34013703)
The thing is, with the lack of clarity/audits etc for a lot of organizations in this world, you'll never get clear proof before problems become all too apparent.

Look at FTX, Celsius et al, lots of people called FUD when issues were raised there...

Re:Binance Is Fucked by gwn7 on Friday December 16, 2022 @07:39AM (#34013905)
By that logic should we assume that every crypto company who don't do audits that meet your standards is "fucked"?

For instance, do you think Tether is "fucked" too?

I'm not saying that Binance is doing everything great. I have no idea. But is saying that it is "fucked" reasonable to you at this time, with the current evidence at hand?

Re:Binance Is Fucked by snowwrestler on Friday December 16, 2022 @08:21AM (#34014228)
> By that logic should we assume that every crypto company who don't do audits that meet your standards is "fucked"?

Yes, this is in fact the rationale approach to financial institutions. It is why solidly-run companies invest in audits: to demonstrate, on a regular basis, that they are solvent and stable (not fucked).

Re:Binance Is Fucked by gwn7 on Friday December 16, 2022 @09:26AM (#34014786)
Look, I actually agree with the core of your argument. No / bad audits are a red flag to me too. I'm just saying that using the word "fucked" still is speculative and an overstatement. I would use "untrustworthy", "shady", "dangerous" etc, but not "fucked". That's all I'm saying.
Re:Binance Is Fucked by snowwrestler on Saturday December 17, 2022 @12:12AM (#34024962)
That's a fair response, makes sense. Thanks.
Re:Binance Is Fucked by raesene9 on Friday December 16, 2022 @09:57AM (#34015193)
I didn't mention the word "fucked" , that was the article, I was making a point about lack of clarity in Binance's financials :)

But yes, if a major financial company can't complete an independent audit to IFRS or similar standards, that's a major red flag. We know major crpyto exchanges can do it as Coinbase is audited by Deloitte's, so it's not that it's not possible.

and yes Tether falls into that category too.

Re:Binance Is Fucked by gwn7 on Friday December 16, 2022 @10:33AM (#34015694)
> I didn't mention the word "fucked" , that was the article

Sorry about that.

I totally agree with you. I just don't agree with the use of the word "fucked". My related comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34014786

Re:Binance Is Fucked by sshine on Friday December 16, 2022 @11:34AM (#34016556)
> For instance, do you think Tether is "fucked" too?

Uh, yes!?!

> isn't saying that Binance is "fucked" a bit much at this time

Sort of. The claim is that all the signs are there. A “Binance is fucked” rhetoric may increase the bank run on them, which may fuck them.

The fact that they’re dealing with a bank run, in part out of fear that the same will happen to them as FTX, will increase the probability, all depending on how sound their business is.

If they start freezing accounts, we know we’re hitting bottom.

Re:Binance Is Fucked by nieve on Saturday December 17, 2022 @12:57AM (#34025237)
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/13/crypto-exchange-binance-temp...

"Binance, the world's largest cryptocurrency exchange, paused withdrawals of the stablecoin USDC on Tuesday while it carried out a "token swap." USDC withdrawals were resumed about 8 hours after Binance first announced the pausing of withdrawals. Changpeng Zhao, CEO of Binance, tweeted on Tuesday that the exchange is seeing an increase in withdrawals of USDC."

Strategically timed 8 hour stoppages are not a sign things are going well.