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Re:Python 3.11 Delivers by coldtea on Thursday December 15, 2022 @09:05AM (#33999635)
Why, when did we "ate" gains the team explicitly seeked to achieve in prior releases?

What exactly big gain-eating abstraction you have in mind that was added to Python at which point?

Re:Python 3.11 Delivers by nequo on Thursday December 15, 2022 @10:49AM (#34001348)
Parent is not talking about bloat in Python but in what goes above and below it in the stack.
Re:Python 3.11 Delivers by coldtea on Thursday December 15, 2022 @11:10AM (#34001646)
Well, it might be accurate for the industry in general (e.g. going to higher level languages), but I don't think it's particularly the case with Python.

It's not like Python devs build abstraction towers beyond what the language already has an encourages (unlike, say, Java which has a well deserved reputation for this kind of towering abstractions, or say, web development).

If anything, a lot of Python effort is on Data Science and scientific python, where wrapped C/C++/fortran libs for maximum speed/minimum memory is the order of the day.