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Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by nightowl_games on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @09:18PM (#33994233)
> How can you tell me... ?

I'm not presenting this as fact but the argument is clearly that Musk's net effect on the global population is positive through his career choice and life's work, and that jetting around is necessary for him to complete this life's work.

Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by boringg on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @09:35PM (#33994371)
Agree this is the argument. I find it funny that people point to his individual CO2e footprint as kind of this gotcha moment. So thoughtless.

The baseline condition is everyone is still in ICE cars -- he changed that and have altered the trajectory - the transaction cost is his own emission to raise capital and build companies. Now add in the CH4 rocket fuel - might do some counter damage to the net impact but I haven't run the calculations -- probably could do a quick one. Should be using H2 if he cared about the environment ;)

Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by mplewis on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @09:22PM (#33994266)
The thing that makes me think twice about that argument is that Elon has just spent an enormous sum of money on a social media website that doesn’t seem to further the goals of materially improving the world.
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by schiffern on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @09:32PM (#33994351)
It's not all-or-nothing. Musk can still deliver a net environmental benefit without every activity being directed solely toward that goal.
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by _carbyau_ on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @11:03PM (#33995054)
Well, I too perform activities and if they fail to benefit humanity at large then colour me disappointed.

In essence, billionaires are humans like the rest of us. If we're asked to make concessions, they should have to make the same concessions.

Mind you, social morality (IE the "We should stop flying so much!" idea) not backed up by law is toothless and ignorable. Which Elon is clearly doing.

Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by chii on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @09:59PM (#33994573)
> doesn’t seem to further the goals of materially improving the world.

why should that be a goal of his? I mean, unless you expect that just because he's rich, that he's obliged, how his enormous amount of money is spent is not something anyone else can critisize.

Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by giantrobot on Thursday December 15, 2022 @12:39AM (#33995694)
He could do that shit with a Zoom meeting. Musk has enough money to get one of those really swanky Cisco telepresence tanks. He doesn't need a fucking jet to complete anything except being another asshole billionaire.