Waymo's collision avoidance testing

Re:Waymo's collision avoidance testing by bufferoverflow on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @06:06PM (#33992090)

Waymo crashes a lot more. From 2 years ago:

"In its first report on its autonomous vehicle operations in Phoenix, Arizona, Waymo said that it was involved in 18 crashes" (in 6.1 million miles).

For comparison, in the latest Tesla safety report:

"we recorded one crash for every 4.31 million miles driven", which is roughly what they had 2 years ago.

So Tesla is objectively safer. And Teslas are diven anywhere, whereas Waymo only drove in Phoenix, which is extremely sunny and dry.

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Re:Waymo's collision avoidance testing by r00fus on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @07:00PM (#33992807)

I really doubt you're comparing apples to apples here. How many of those 4.31 million miles per crash had FSD enabled?

Plus the Tesla owner will save the his/her $80k Tesla rather than prove FSD can actually handle or fail a situation.

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Re:Waymo's collision avoidance testing by bufferoverflow on Thursday December 15, 2022 @11:35AM (#34002004)

This is FSD only data.

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Re:Waymo's collision avoidance testing by jbuzbee on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @07:15PM (#33992972)

I don't know the answer, but are these numbers comparable? I would assume that Waymo is talking about crashes while in self-driving mode, is that true for Tesla as well or are they just talking about all miles driven, self driving mode and manual?

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Re:Waymo's collision avoidance testing by lern_too_spel on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @08:09PM (#33993548)

Autopilot is not FSD, only runs on freeways, and is apparently so bad that Tesla refuses to release statistics that allow for an apples to apples comparison against having it off.

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