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Re:Waymo's collision avoidance testing by minsc_and_boo on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @03:39PM (#33990179)
I don't think anyone is doubting that Tesla considers themselves to be a player, especially since it sells more add-ons to their cars. Repeatedly publicly knocking the benefits of LIDAR in self driving demonstrates otherwise.
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Re:Waymo's collision avoidance testing by mehwoot on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @03:42PM (#33990233)
> I don't think anyone is doubting that Tesla considers themselves to be a player

> I don't consider Tesla a player in self-driving, but I don't think Tesla does either

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Re:Waymo's collision avoidance testing by pdabbadabba on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @04:13PM (#33990668)
They clearly are a player in the self-driving cars market. They may not be a player in self-driving research. These things can both be true at the same time.

I think that's the distinction driving the confusion here.

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