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Re:Htmx by kelnos on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @03:06PM (#33989527)
Is the argument here that there are too many JS frameworks, or that the complexity of the frameworks themselves tends to grow over time?

If the former, totally agree. If the latter, Java frameworks are plenty complicated.

Also not sure how you've missed a lot of other frameworks; Spring and J2EE are certainly not the only ones that have been around for 10+ years. Dropwizard, Vert.x, akka-http, GWT, Play... just to name a few.

Re:Htmx by kkapelon on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @03:26PM (#33989959)
The argument is that I could learn Spring in 2002, find a Job then I could learn Spring in 2008 and find a job and then I could learn Spring in 2013 and find a job and then learn Spring in 2018 and find a job and then learn Spring in 2023 and find a job.

Spring IS complex, but you learn it once and you are done with it.

Re:Htmx by intrasight on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @11:49PM (#33995349)
Or learn Cobol in 1965, find a job. Learn Cobol in 2022, find a job. Or Fortran - which I started using in 1983. Or C# (2000 for me)

I think the key distinction is that these languages and libraries evolve over time.

Re:Htmx by agos on Thursday December 15, 2022 @04:27AM (#33997137)
this is really useful if you know in advance which framework is going to stay around twenty years. If you invested in GWT...