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Re:Waymo's collision avoidance testing by margalabargala on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @02:45PM (#33989096)
Waymo currently works with HD maps.

Tesla currently works not at all.

It's not valid to compare Waymo's current capability unfavorably to a version of Tesla's capability that only exists in someone's head.

I would bet on Waymo working on a dirt road before Tesla does.

Re:Waymo's collision avoidance testing by Domenic_S on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @03:37PM (#33990137)
??

Literally a Tesla with FSD working well on a dirt road: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv1l6aTnB_I

Re:Waymo's collision avoidance testing by enragedcacti on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @04:05PM (#33990546)
my dumb car "works" for self driving assuming a straight enough road without obstacles. A safety critical system needs to have a very robust definition of "works" that is far beyond "it happened to not crash on this particular road at this particular time with this particular set of obstacles".
Re:Waymo's collision avoidance testing by margalabargala on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @05:27PM (#33991568)
Fair enough; my "not at all" was hyperbole, Tesla's driver assistance software does not in fact crash every single time it is used without human intervention.

I do find it mildly disturbing that in that video, the driver points out the car making fully blind turns where it cannot see that there's nothing it would hit.

Re:Waymo's collision avoidance testing by jdmichal on Thursday December 15, 2022 @12:16AM (#33995527)
Did I miss the dirt road part? That looks like it starts on a rural but paved road, and ends in a town.