Waymo's collision avoidance testing

Re:Waymo's collision avoidance testing by voz_ on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @02:33PM (#33988880)

Collecting HD Maps is an 80/20 problem (I have a patent in a subfield of this, for better or worse lol) - you can get a ton of value from a small set of focused areas. If you can solve greater metro areas (no dirt roads?), you've got a real solution.

I also think that the mapping and routing component matters a lot less than how good your collision and realtime avoidance systems are. And in that arena, Tesla is an unmitigated disaster.

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Re:Waymo's collision avoidance testing by guilamu on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @02:40PM (#33988998)

Thanks for your anwser. I see a lot of bad things on Tesla FSD and I totally get the critics.

Yet, I follow DirtyTesla's YouTube channel and I think FSD is quite impressive compared to any other self driving software I've seen.

Would you mind to direct me to similar videos from Waymo for example in similar situations? I can't find anything even remotely as good as what Tesla is doing now.

I'm not a fanboy nor do I possess any TSLA actions (or even a car for that matter), I'm just interested in the field and until now I thought Tesla was the most promising tech (it seems I'm wrong, but I really like to see it!).

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Re:Waymo's collision avoidance testing by vgt on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @03:11PM (#33989634)

Compare Waymo[0] with Tesla [1]..

These are easily searchable which leads me to question your sincerity in feinting ignorance.

[0]https://youtu.be/mWvhw1KCmbo

[1]https://youtu.be/3mnG_Gbxf_w

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Re:Waymo's collision avoidance testing by zaroth on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @03:24PM (#33989919)

I think you missed OPs point.

As I understand it, Waymo can’t drive on unmapped roads, and therefore there are no comparable videos of Waymo actually doing that.

You chose a Waymo video from their marketing channel, and a newspaper hit piece. And then questioned sincerity of OP…

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Re:Waymo's collision avoidance testing by simondotau on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @03:44PM (#33990256)

Not to mention that there’s no evidence that any autonomous driving system was engaged on that Tesla.

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Re:Waymo's collision avoidance testing by vgt on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @03:50PM (#33990347)

did I? Here's a direct quote I was responding to:

>I see a lot of bad things on Tesla FSD and I totally get the critics...I think FSD is quite impressive compared to any other self driving software I've seen. > >Would you mind to direct me to similar videos from Waymo for example in similar situations? I can't find anything even remotely as good as what Tesla is doing now.

I can't believe one can make an honest argument that Tesla is ahead of Waymo on FSD

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Re:Waymo's collision avoidance testing by simondotau on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @07:57PM (#33993433)

The honest argument is that we’ve seen Tesla’s technology in unsupervised and uncontrolled adversarial conditions across hundreds of wildly diverse cities in the USA, whereas we haven’t seen Waymo do anything other than narrow geofenced areas or curated marketing videos. Right now if you dropped a Waymo and a Tesla in Michigan, one of them will drive at least as well as a human learner driver and the other will probably refuse to move at all.

I agree that Waymo could well be far ahead of Tesla. With the information at hand I don’t have a way to make an assessment either way.

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Re:Waymo's collision avoidance testing by guilamu on Thursday December 15, 2022 @03:39PM (#34005400)

That was exactly my point, thanks for explaining it better than I did (as you must have guessed by now, English is not my native language, sorry).

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Re:Waymo's collision avoidance testing by Zigurd on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @04:57PM (#33991195)

They're just asking questions. Geeez.

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