Re:Tesla Market Cap falls below $500B
by bryanlarsen on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @01:33PM
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Tesla's gross margin is 25%, Toyota's gross margin is 15%.
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Re:Tesla Market Cap falls below $500B
by hef19898 on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @02:04PM
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And at one time Porsche progits were higher than their revenue (look it up, that was caused by their VW shares exploding in value). Ferrari is more profitable than, say, Hyundai. Different market segmentd have different profit margins, and Toyota actually can build cars with retail prices below 30k.
Re:Tesla Market Cap falls below $500B
by makestuff on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @01:42PM
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Do they still make a large portion of profit from selling carbon credits though?
No. In their latest filing[1], automotive regulatory credits are around 1% of revenue.
1. https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/1318605/0000...
Re:Tesla Market Cap falls below $500B
by hef19898 on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @02:06PM
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Revenue =|= profits. Now, if you are interested, devide what ever that revenue was by Tesla's profits. Because those credits have a zero cost behind them. And those credits will go away with every EV those other brands build and sell.
If you look at the SEC filing it's 8% of profits. Though Tesla isn't trying to be particularly profitable right now. They've been spending tons of money on new factories so they can scale up production.
Re:Tesla Market Cap falls below $500B
by bryanlarsen on Thursday December 15, 2022 @11:06AM
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Credits aren't pure profit. You have to build and deliver a car to get them, so the 1% number of the parent comment is much more relevant than your 8% number.