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Re:“If Sweden didn’t have the Nordic Model, I would not be a... by naasking on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @12:52PM (#33987061)
> The only ridiculous thing here is the take of people who don't see how harmful prostitution is to females as a class

This is a failure to separate the circumstances surrounding illegal prostitution (pimping, drugs, trafficking) from the act itself.

The reason prostitution can be empowering for women is because sex is widely desired, and something that is widely desired is a great financial opportunity. There are no shortage of stories about women paying for college by escorting rather than taking on huge student debt. Taking that opportunity away from women can be seen as just another patriarchal oppression, and the excuse given is that they can't have this opportunity because some other men want to use them to exploit that same opportunity. It's patriarchy all the way down.

It would be great if people didn't have to worry about money, but that's not the world we live in. Don't take away their opportunities to better their lives, how about you go after the people actually causing harm. That is the liberal position.

> That's a good compromise.

Not really, you're just endangering women again by driving it underground where they can't protect themselves.

Re:“If Sweden didn’t have the Nordic Model, I would not be a... by throw_m239339 on Thursday December 15, 2022 @04:37PM (#34006127)
> Not really, you're just endangering women again by driving it underground where they can't protect themselves.

Not really, that's a pure invention of yours. The Nordic model does protect prostitutes from pimps and johns.

Go educate yourself:

https://nordicmodelnow.org/

Re:“If Sweden didn’t have the Nordic Model, I would not be a... by naasking on Thursday December 15, 2022 @09:48PM (#34009134)
> Not really, that's a pure invention of yours. The Nordic model does protect prostitutes from pimps and johns.

Funny, because we had a whole debate about it here in Canada, and guess what? All of the actual sex workers came out against it and said it would endanger them. But I'm sure your propaganda is more reliable or unbiased than the testimony of the people this would most affect.

Re:“If Sweden didn’t have the Nordic Model, I would not be a... by vonvtoo on Friday December 16, 2022 @01:15AM (#34011115)
All of them? Really, we know that's not true.

There's a concerted effort to amplify only the voices that will continue to benefit pimps and punters and other vile men.

Re:“If Sweden didn’t have the Nordic Model, I would not be a... by naasking on Friday December 16, 2022 @09:10AM (#34014608)
> All of them? Really, we know that's not true.

The Nordic model does not offer any real benefits to sex workers and still leaves their job dangerous, so why would they support it?

https://nonordicmodel.com/

> There's a concerted effort to amplify only the voices that will continue to benefit pimps and punters and other vile men.

It's amazing how people willfully blind themselves when it suits their prejudice. The primary organizations pushing for reform of Canada's sex work laws are led by sex workers themselves [1]. But I suppose in your mind they're just brainwashed or coerced?

[1] https://sexworklawreform.com/