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Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by AlexandrB on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @11:15AM (#33985622)
He certainly has the right to ban anyone. Just like Twitter had the right to do so before he took over. The mismatch is between Elon's rhetoric, which defined this kind of arbitrary moderation as contrary to free speech, and his actions which simply continue the trend but now with a different bias.
Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by Xylakant on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @02:11PM (#33988504)
> He certainly has the right to ban anyone.

That is not true in all jurisdictions and definitely not in Germany. Since twitter offers it’s services to the general public, bans must be non-discriminatory and are open to challenge in court. Twitter can ban anyone who violates their ToS, but not just anyone Elon dislikes.

https://www.e-recht24.de/artikel/marketing-seo/11415-was-koe...

Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by mafuy on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @03:49PM (#33990332)
That is a bad source (vague article and disreputable, biased site).

I do not believe such a thing exists in Germany. The claim certainly needs a proper source.

Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by Xylakant on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @04:21PM (#33990779)
Is a court case that twitter lost a better source?

https://www.lhr-law.de/magazin/social-media-recht/olg-dresde...

It’s not surprising this exists. It’s equivalent to the Hausrecht in the physical world - if you make your place available to the public (a bar, restaurant, supermarket) you no longer can kick out just anyone without cause. You can ban people from entering (or make them leave) for reasons, but those must be non-discriminatory and not arbitrary. “I don’t like you nose/hair/color of your skin” won’t work. “You need to wear shoes or leave.” is likely valid.

Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by mafuy on Thursday December 15, 2022 @09:00AM (#33999563)
Yes.
Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by cycomanic on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @05:11PM (#33991353)
Do you have a source for why this is a "disreputable, biased site"?
Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by mafuy on Thursday December 15, 2022 @08:59AM (#33999550)
I've asked a lawyer which site to consult. This was a few years ago.
Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by skissane on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @07:27PM (#33993112)
> That is not true in all jurisdictions and definitely not in Germany. Since twitter offers it’s services to the general public, bans must be non-discriminatory and are open to challenge in court.

Sure. But since ElonJet is run from the US, in a dispute between a US company and a US user, only US law is really relevant, any foreign court is likely to dismiss the claim as outside of their jurisdiction. As far as US-based users go, he basically does have the right to ban anyone, so long as he doesn't start banning people on the basis of a protected characteristic such as race or sex.

Even if we suppose, counterfactually, that ElonJet was run from Germany – while the German legal system might in that situation be open to hearing the case, I doubt ElonJet would win, when you consider the extensive emphasis which German (and EU law) puts on privacy rights, and the fact that it is willing to go a lot further in limiting free speech in the name of privacy than the US legal system is.