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Re:US Department of Energy: Fusion Ignition Achieved by RobinL on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @10:51AM (#33985207)
Here's some rough numbers, hopefully i haven't made any mistakes:

Total US energy generation 2021: 4 trillion kwh

Average power generation: 457Gw

Cost of Topaz solar farm: $2.5bn Potential output: 550 Mw Cost per Mw $4.5m

Spend a trillion on similar capacity, you get 220Gw potential output.

But that's assuming you get 550Mw average. In fact, it produces about 1282Gwh output a year, so average is more like 145Mw.

So at a rough estimate, you need more like 10 trillion to meet US electricity demand. And that assumes you have unlimited battery storage for free.

And of course electricity is a small minority of total energy use.

Incidentally, I think it's amazing you get to about 10% of total electricity needs with only $1tr, i.e. around 4% of US national output.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topaz_Solar_Farm https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/electricity/electricity-...

```python trillion_dollars = 1e12

mw = 550

cost_farm = 2.5e9

cost_dollar_per_mw = cost_farm/mw

num_mw = trillion_dollars/cost_dollar_per_mw

num_gw = num_mw/1000

num_gw

kwh = 4e12

mw = kw/1000

gw = mw/1000

gw ```

Re:US Department of Energy: Fusion Ignition Achieved by iamgopal on Friday December 16, 2022 @03:27PM (#34019863)
Don’t forget that, 1 trillion can get you lots of leverage and cost benefits In installation and solar panel production. I’ll do it for 1 trillion.
Re:US Department of Energy: Fusion Ignition Achieved by Dagonfly on Friday December 16, 2022 @05:17PM (#34021294)
> Cost per MW: $4.5m

That's quite high. Here in Germany they assume 530-800€ per kW_peak for a utility-scale ground-mounted system (2021) [0]. You can add additional CAPEX for inflation and expansion of the grid, but <$1500 per kW_peak (aka $1.5m per MW) should be quite possible. Especially if you include scaling effects.

If you add batteries for night-time balancing, LCOE roughly doubles for now.

Economically, no other energy source will beat non-winter day-time PV in the foreseeable future. Imo, as long as other plants are running during those times, investing in PV is a no-brainer.

[0] https://www.ise.fraunhofer.de/en/publications/studies/cost-o...