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Re:Be wary of imitating high-status people who can afford to... by nostrademons on Sunday December 11, 2022 @02:39PM (#33946690)
I was appliance shopping recently and it seems like the most expensive appliances are often not the best. If you just want to cook, you're usually better off with a good LG or GE oven than with a Viking, which test notoriously poorly. Same with many consumer products - a Honda or Toyota will be more reliable with more convenience features than a BMW or Rolls Royce; a Chicco or Britax carseat is often safer, more comfortable, and more convenient than a Peg Perego; a Samsung or Apple smartwatch has a lot more features than a Rolex. A good rule of thumb I've had for getting good consumer products is to buy the high end of the mass market; don't skimp on budget items, but also don't buy products that are priced so the average person can't afford them.

Makes sense economically. Mass market manufacturers can amortize their R&D and quality control over many more units than luxury brands. The point of the luxury brand is explicitly countersignaling, showing that you can afford to spend more money on an inferior product.

Re:Be wary of imitating high-status people who can afford to... by rosnd on Sunday December 11, 2022 @03:53PM (#33947379)
> - a Honda or Toyota will be more reliable with more convenience features than a BMW or Rolls Royce

What convenience features? Is the Honda or Toyota really meaningfully more reliable during the first couple of years of ownership?

Re:Be wary of imitating high-status people who can afford to... by nostrademons on Sunday December 11, 2022 @05:44PM (#33948415)
More cupholders, the ability to seat 3 carseats abreast, fabric rather than leather seats, better gas mileage, fits more easily in tight parking spots (and you care less if it gets dinged because you didn't pay $70K for it). Only thing the BMW really has on them is soundproofing (and probably acceleration & handling, but I don't care much about that).

And I care more about how reliable it is at > 10 years of ownership, not < 3 years (when nearly everything is reliable). My Honda Fit is coming up on 14 years old and runs like new.

Re:Be wary of imitating high-status people who can afford to... by yunwal on Sunday December 11, 2022 @07:21PM (#33949223)
Rich people probably only care about the first few years of ownership since after a few years they’ll upgrade the the newer model.
Re:Be wary of imitating high-status people who can afford to... by nostrademons on Sunday December 11, 2022 @08:56PM (#33949965)
Right, but this subthread is explicitly about efficiency, i.e. getting value & quality for your money, and not about what's adapted to rich people's lifestyles. The context is people who cook a lot but don't spend a lot of money vs. people who cook only infrequently but spend a lot on kitchen appliances.
Re:Be wary of imitating high-status people who can afford to... by yunwal on Tuesday December 13, 2022 @11:33AM (#33971151)
> Is the Honda or Toyota really meaningfully more reliable during the first couple of years of ownership?

It sounds like the comment you replied to was not about efficiency, but about rich people's preferences and whether they're justified.