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Re:Be wary of imitating high-status people who can afford to... by AlbertCory on Sunday December 11, 2022 @11:56AM (#33944875)
I bought a fake "Rolex" in Thailand, for $10.

It actually didn't work very well. I guess there's a hierarchy even among the fake.

Re:Be wary of imitating high-status people who can afford to... by PaulHoule on Sunday December 11, 2022 @12:13PM (#33945061)
Back in the 1990s my dad's oldest brother went to the outskirts of NYC and was really impressed with the fake "Rolex" he bought. My mom was indignant about it because she sold men's clothing for a living and could tell you exactly how a fake Tommy Hilfiger shirt was worse in so many ways than a real one.

Two weeks later the watch stopped running.

Around the same time, though, my mom's youngest brother was driving on the cross-Bronx throughway, stopped to help somebody whose car was pulled over on the side of the road, and found the driver had been shot dead.

Re:Be wary of imitating high-status people who can afford to... by GTP on Sunday December 11, 2022 @01:30PM (#33945870)
>Around the same time, though, my mom's youngest brother was driving on the cross-Bronx throughway, stopped to help somebody whose car was pulled over on the side of the road, and found the driver had been shot dead.

I don't get what this has too do with the fake rolex.

Re:Be wary of imitating high-status people who can afford to... by PaulHoule on Sunday December 11, 2022 @02:06PM (#33946308)
The outskirts of NYC were pretty rough back in the day. I don't think the guy got shot because he was involved in a fake Rolex gang though...
Re:Be wary of imitating high-status people who can afford to... by notart666 on Sunday December 11, 2022 @02:10PM (#33946351)
Run on sentence makes you wonder.

7/10 meme

Re:Be wary of imitating high-status people who can afford to... by thaumasiotes on Sunday December 11, 2022 @05:10PM (#33948122)
> My mom was indignant about it because she sold men's clothing for a living and could tell you exactly how a fake Tommy Hilfiger shirt was worse in so many ways than a real one.

Gomorrah opens with a description of Italian clothing manufacturing. As described there, the difference between a fake shirt and a real shirt is that they were made to the same specifications under one and the same contract, by different factories, and the real one got delivered faster than the fake one did. Only the first guy to deliver gets paid.

It's an interesting book. https://www.amazon.com/dp/1250145031/

Re:Be wary of imitating high-status people who can afford to... by Melting_Harps on Sunday December 11, 2022 @05:55PM (#33948518)
> It's an interesting book. https://www.amazon.com/dp/1250145031/

They also made a movie of it [0], I lived in Italy during the financial crisis and it had become commonplace to see large migrating Chinese coming from the North (likely illegal migrants in Milan's clothing factories) come to the central part of Italy looking for work on farms and restaurants. It was hard times as this was taking place as the large migration from N. Africa was happening and they were living in the parks and making the locals irate.

It all came to light when our resident cheese maker, who used to work in the fashion Industry, had to tell them in broken Mandarin that we were fully staffed and couldn't accommodate them, but to try elsewhere further South--a typical way to brush-off a problem as is the running theme with Gomorrah.

I soon realized how dirty the Fashion Industry was as the Zara scandal was ettin into full swing and the workers were taking to writing messages about not being paid for the garments they made [1] as the factories were in sweatshops in Xinjiang or Brazil.

I wouldn't all it interesting so much as it is sobering and eye opening to the perils of offshore manufacturing practices and Italy's fashion Industry was just one of many of these horrors; Foxxcon's electronic manufacturing reliant on African rare earth mine exploitation make all of this pale in comparison.

> That's Italy!

It's anywhere you want to see where manufacturing costs get pushed to be the smallest possible line-item/expense in a value chain; the US is notorious for using forced labour in prisons for these kind of things, too. It's sad because it is a common practice in the worst labour camps/prisons in Russia (Siberia). It's where Britney Griner was going to serve her sentence, which incidentally is also where the Nadya of Pussy Riot spent several years in and was very candid about what was awaiting for her there.

0: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0929425/

1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdNvPSD8H1k

Re:Be wary of imitating high-status people who can afford to... by PaulHoule on Sunday December 11, 2022 @05:29PM (#33948279)
That's Italy!
Re:Be wary of imitating high-status people who can afford to... by mozman on Sunday December 11, 2022 @12:11PM (#33945032)
I bought a $400 fake rolex. Aside from the glass not being sapphire you cannot tell the difference visually
Re:Be wary of imitating high-status people who can afford to... by moneywoes on Sunday December 11, 2022 @01:34PM (#33945932)
From whereabouts?
Re:Be wary of imitating high-status people who can afford to... by ROTMetro on Sunday December 11, 2022 @01:57PM (#33946205)
I got some fakes from a big warehouse in Shanghai. They had all levels of prices/quality. Our corporate guide found the shop for us. They had a whole wall of fake watches of different brands. My ex-wife got purses. I much preferred my real watches, but the fakes were for fancy dinners downtown in the big city in case I got mugged.
Re:Be wary of imitating high-status people who can afford to... by mozman on Sunday December 11, 2022 @02:53PM (#33946812)
Look for fake watch forums and their trusted vendor list. That’s how I found the seller I bought from.

Took 4 weeks to arrive direct from China

Re:Be wary of imitating high-status people who can afford to... by pclmulqdq on Sunday December 11, 2022 @02:11PM (#33946372)
Is the escapement running at the same rate? A big part of the "rolex" appearance that is very hard to copy is the 8 ticks per second that the second hand goes through. I have seen very high quality Rolex copies before that don't do that, and are instantly recognizable as a fake to people who know a little bit about watches.
Re:Be wary of imitating high-status people who can afford to... by dagw on Sunday December 11, 2022 @02:37PM (#33946668)
Is the escapement running at the same rate?

Absolutely. Modern fake Rolexes can only be told apart from a real one by an expert examining it with a loupe. And 8 tick pr second isn't that hard to replicate. Several ETA and Sellita calibers do it as well.