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Re:The Dumbest Idea In The World: Maximizing Shareholder Value by forensic on Monday December 26, 2011 @07:20PM (#3394310)
It's overly simplistic to say people always worship the powerful. Caesar was assassinated by the entire senate. Democracy in America was created on the basis of the rejection of power-worship.

You seem to have your pet way of interpreting history. I'm not arguing that honor and other values were some kind of omnipotent force for good I'm just saying they existed.

When you assume that I'm a complete idiot you're failing to "assume good faith" which is one of the conduct requirements to maintain your honor. In a court of law, a lawyer who fails to assume good faith is dishonored and his arguments are automatically invalid. Honor is still used in our justice system.

Re:The Dumbest Idea In The World: Maximizing Shareholder Value by beagle3 on Monday December 26, 2011 @09:19PM (#3394560)
Funny !

When was the last time you observed real court proceedings and saw a laywer dishonored? Many of them act in bad faith every day.

You ignore historical examples dismissing them with excuses, your references are (essentially) PR speeches and the conservapedia (this thread http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?121000-Conser...! might enlighten other readers, but it is irrelevant to reality in your own planet).

If courts worked as you believe, the SCO/Novell fiasco would not have dragged for the years it has (it's still not dead!).

Yes, honor exists. But you have failed to demonstrate that the course of american society was significantly influenced by the concept of honor.

Re:The Dumbest Idea In The World: Maximizing Shareholder Value by forensic on Monday December 26, 2011 @11:38PM (#3394834)
Lawyers go to great lengths to maintain honor in the courtroom. They learn in law school. It's just become so embedded in the practice that now its inconsequential.